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Can someone explain how carbon capture can make any money?
Posted on 8/12/23 at 10:49 am
Posted on 8/12/23 at 10:49 am
In light of Senator Cassidy and Gov bell Edward's sucking each other off for receiving federal money to build carbon capture plants in louisiana ( LINK), how exactly does this generate money?
If I understand correctly, these plants yank carbon dioxide from the atmospere, it is collected amd sent underground.
What product is made? How do employees get paid? How do you pay the light bill and maintenance costs?
It says 1 million metric tons of co2 will be captured yearly
Will that change this graph at all?
If I understand correctly, these plants yank carbon dioxide from the atmospere, it is collected amd sent underground.
What product is made? How do employees get paid? How do you pay the light bill and maintenance costs?
It says 1 million metric tons of co2 will be captured yearly
Will that change this graph at all?
Posted on 8/12/23 at 10:51 am to ksayetiger
It’s basically the wetland mitigation model.
Posted on 8/12/23 at 10:53 am to ksayetiger
Major oil companies have been studying it for years. Essentially, the government has to offer subsidies for it to be worthwhile in any way, or grant tax breaks.
Posted on 8/12/23 at 10:53 am to ksayetiger
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If I understand correctly, these plants yank carbon dioxide from the atmospere, it is collected amd sent underground.

Posted on 8/12/23 at 10:53 am to ksayetiger
thats all that it does, make money for a select few people related to those serving in DC.
Posted on 8/12/23 at 11:11 am to ksayetiger
Just one big money grab
Posted on 8/12/23 at 11:13 am to ksayetiger
Seems like some trees would be cheaper
Posted on 8/12/23 at 11:27 am to ksayetiger
Bilking taxpayers with a hoax can be very profitable.
Posted on 8/12/23 at 11:34 am to ksayetiger
It doesn't make any money without the subsidies.
I've got another good one for you. Those huge compressors are 3-4 years out even if you issued a PO today.
It's a scam.
I've got another good one for you. Those huge compressors are 3-4 years out even if you issued a PO today.
It's a scam.
This post was edited on 8/12/23 at 11:35 am
Posted on 8/12/23 at 11:40 am to AndyCBR
I think the subsidy is $85 a ton. If compression is less than 85 a ton, then you profit. For what purpose are we pumping CO2 into the ground, not sure. But you're paying for it to make some CEOs a shite load of money. Curious how much the big guy gets. 1.2 billion could buy a nice mental hospital or other more worthwhile public project.
This post was edited on 8/12/23 at 11:42 am
Posted on 8/12/23 at 11:45 am to ksayetiger
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It says 1 million metric tons of co2 will be captured yearly
If it wasn't a total scam maybe they could sell the CO2 to greenhouses.. they use it to make their plants grow better.. because it's fricking plant food
Posted on 8/12/23 at 12:06 pm to ksayetiger
Maybe off-topic for your question about the plants, but I can try to explain carbon capture from a different "plant" perspective.
My brother and I have a hemp and cannabis business. Shell and BP have both committed $800M and ExxonMobil has committed $1.2B for carbon capture in the southeast. We get our contract through O&G, not through the Fed Gov.
We then contract out with farmers in Louisiana and Mississippi to grow industrial hemp. We provide the seed and they are paid per ton produced. It averages about 5 tons per acre.
When it's harvested, we grind it up and have it processed into pellets that can then be sold to places like bioplastic production facilities, hempcrete production facilities, etc. A lot of the bioplastic gets used for single-use items like plasticware you'd get to-go from a restaurant, or holiday items like Mardi Gras beads, new years eve glasses, yada yada. They're biodegradable. Look at the amount of trash in any major city after new years or St. Patrick's day, and all that shite going into a landfill vs being biodegradable.
We get paid from O&G based on the tonnage produced by the crop, and we get paid by selling the biomass after harvest. Local farmers get paid. Local manufacturing facilities get paid. Local shops get paid by selling the end products.
The money goes pretty far. O&G companies get their carbon credits.
My brother and I have a hemp and cannabis business. Shell and BP have both committed $800M and ExxonMobil has committed $1.2B for carbon capture in the southeast. We get our contract through O&G, not through the Fed Gov.
We then contract out with farmers in Louisiana and Mississippi to grow industrial hemp. We provide the seed and they are paid per ton produced. It averages about 5 tons per acre.
When it's harvested, we grind it up and have it processed into pellets that can then be sold to places like bioplastic production facilities, hempcrete production facilities, etc. A lot of the bioplastic gets used for single-use items like plasticware you'd get to-go from a restaurant, or holiday items like Mardi Gras beads, new years eve glasses, yada yada. They're biodegradable. Look at the amount of trash in any major city after new years or St. Patrick's day, and all that shite going into a landfill vs being biodegradable.
We get paid from O&G based on the tonnage produced by the crop, and we get paid by selling the biomass after harvest. Local farmers get paid. Local manufacturing facilities get paid. Local shops get paid by selling the end products.
The money goes pretty far. O&G companies get their carbon credits.
Posted on 8/12/23 at 12:29 pm to ksayetiger
quote:Simple. The government will be printing money to pay for it.
Can someone explain how carbon capture can make any money?
Posted on 8/12/23 at 12:31 pm to ksayetiger
If the government is worried about CO2 then they should slow down on expanding the population and destroying natural CO2 capturing plants fior more houses .
Posted on 8/12/23 at 12:57 pm to stuckintexas
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carbon credits.
That's how they will make money, by selling carbon credits to industries that create carbon.
Posted on 8/12/23 at 1:01 pm to Von
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they use it to make their plants grow better.. because it's fricking plant food
And when removing co2 destroys vegetation in Louisiana, they’ll get to grift off of that recovery effort as well.
Posted on 8/12/23 at 1:16 pm to ksayetiger
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It says 1 million metric tons of co2 will be captured yearly
I find that hard to believe. If we produce 40 billion metric tons per year, then it would take 40,000 carbon capture plants to be neutral. Since some carbon is needed and filtered naturally, 20,000 carbon plants would likely be all that’s needed.
20,000 seems like a doable number worldwide. We probably have more refineries than that.
With that said, how much carbon is produced and natural resource consumed while building and maintaining a carbon plant?
Posted on 8/12/23 at 2:26 pm to TrueTiger
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That's how they will make money, by selling carbon credits to industries that create carbon.
Carbon credits go to O&G companies based on how much carbon capture they can prove. This should mean its the O&G companies that are spending the money on it. We haven't been paid a dime from the feds.
This post was edited on 8/12/23 at 2:31 pm
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