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Is ESPN holding back SEC expansion?
Posted on 8/2/23 at 8:17 pm
Posted on 8/2/23 at 8:17 pm
It may be. It won't pay more for 9 SEC games. I can see ESPN saying we got the SEC until 2034 for 16 teams and we are not paying more.
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"Even the mighty SEC got a humbling taste of the new recipe when ESPN declined its request for more money in exchange for moving from eight to nine conference games. The network is under no obligation to pay a dollar more than it already does for the league’s entire inventory, but the conference’s leaders mistakenly believed it would do so anyway for the opportunity to show more LSU-Auburn, less LSU-McNeese State. Thus the SEC is staying at eight for now."
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"Even the mighty SEC got a humbling taste of the new recipe when ESPN declined its request for more money in exchange for moving from eight to nine conference games. The network is under no obligation to pay a dollar more than it already does for the league’s entire inventory, but the conference’s leaders mistakenly believed it would do so anyway for the opportunity to show more LSU-Auburn, less LSU-McNeese State. Thus the SEC is staying at eight for now."
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Posted on 8/2/23 at 8:18 pm to Ralph_Wiggum
There is no reason for the SEC to expand right now.
Posted on 8/2/23 at 8:20 pm to Ralph_Wiggum
Greg Sankey is stupid as frick
Posted on 8/2/23 at 8:22 pm to DBG
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Greg Sankey is stupid as frick
And yet he is still doing better than any other commissioner outside the Big Ten.
I think that means he may still be a dumbfrick but all the other dumbfricks are worse.
Posted on 8/2/23 at 8:23 pm to teke184
He’s the definition of born on 3rd base
Posted on 8/2/23 at 8:23 pm to teke184
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And yet he is still doing better than any other commissioner outside the Big Ten.
Is he doing better or are the SEC brands that much better?
Posted on 8/2/23 at 8:25 pm to Ancient Astronaut
quote:Only if the ACC implodes and FSU and Clemson can get out of their ACC GOR become available. Those are the biggest names on the board for any future realignment, so if the ACC collapses then the SEC would have good reason to expand right now and add at least FSU and Clemson to keep them from going to the B1G and keep the B1G from gaining media markets in SEC territory
There is no reason for the SEC to expand right now.
Posted on 8/2/23 at 8:25 pm to Ralph_Wiggum
McNeese catches a stray here
Posted on 8/2/23 at 8:27 pm to Ralph_Wiggum
ESPN has an interest in keeping the ACC alive, so in that since, they are.
If FSU was in a FOX conference, the rumor would be FSU to the SEC instead of the B1G.
The SEC doesn’t need to do anything though. The SEC has 8 programs that have won national titles in the BCS/Playoff era, and 9 that are financially capable of competing at that level.
Even if the B1G adds the best possible football programs in Oregon, Washington, FSU, and Clemson, it will have at most 8 programs capable of competing at that level.
If the B1G were just on FOX, it probably wouldn’t be exploring expansion, but because it’s over 3 networks, it needs more content. CBS and NBC are probably looking at league right now thinking, “I’m not sure I want to have to show this much Michigan State.”
If FSU was in a FOX conference, the rumor would be FSU to the SEC instead of the B1G.
The SEC doesn’t need to do anything though. The SEC has 8 programs that have won national titles in the BCS/Playoff era, and 9 that are financially capable of competing at that level.
Even if the B1G adds the best possible football programs in Oregon, Washington, FSU, and Clemson, it will have at most 8 programs capable of competing at that level.
If the B1G were just on FOX, it probably wouldn’t be exploring expansion, but because it’s over 3 networks, it needs more content. CBS and NBC are probably looking at league right now thinking, “I’m not sure I want to have to show this much Michigan State.”
Posted on 8/2/23 at 8:36 pm to TomRollTideRitter
Whoa Michigan state catching a stray here lol. They are nowhere near the bottom of the barrel for that conference. I know this is about football but they’ve been pretty good just as much as 2 years ago they won 10 games but they really are the class of that conference for basketball.
Posted on 8/2/23 at 8:36 pm to Tiger Prawn
Everything revolves around money and I don’t really understand the value Clemson and FSU add to the SEC outside of having decent fanbases and good football teams. They don’t really expand territory and viewership all that much, given that there are already teams in both states which may not drastically improve TV deals. In the same sense, I think the NC and Virginia schools could be potentially more lucrative additions to the conference.
That said, I am not sure if any of the ACC schools add enough monetary value to TV contracts to make it worth it for the SEC teams.
That said, I am not sure if any of the ACC schools add enough monetary value to TV contracts to make it worth it for the SEC teams.
This post was edited on 8/2/23 at 8:37 pm
Posted on 8/2/23 at 8:37 pm to TomRollTideRitter
Conference realignment is all about the competition between ESPN and Fox.
The SEC and ACC are both ESPN properties, so there is no reason for ESPN to cannibalize its own properties.
The Big 10 is mostly owned by Fox and CBS going forward, so they have an incentive to steal valuable franchises from other conferences.
The PAC 12 is basically out of buyers, so it's getting cannibalized by everyone.
The Big 12 was partially owned by Fox but will likely be more or less an ESPN property going forward.
The SEC and ACC are both ESPN properties, so there is no reason for ESPN to cannibalize its own properties.
The Big 10 is mostly owned by Fox and CBS going forward, so they have an incentive to steal valuable franchises from other conferences.
The PAC 12 is basically out of buyers, so it's getting cannibalized by everyone.
The Big 12 was partially owned by Fox but will likely be more or less an ESPN property going forward.
Posted on 8/2/23 at 8:50 pm to Geauxldninja
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Whoa Michigan state catching a stray here lol. They are nowhere near the bottom of the barrel for that conference.
I’m not trying to bash Michigan State here, but CBS, NBC, and FOX are all major network. They want premier games every week. Michigan State is a good program, but they aren’t a game of the week program unless they’re having a stellar year.
The problem with the B1G for the networks is this in a given week:
1) FOX picks up Ohio State playing Penn State
2) CBS picks Michigan playing whoever because it’s Michigan
3) NBC is left with what game? The remaining teams in the league are not national game of the week draws.
Wisconsin-Michigan State is a good game for ESPN or FOX’s B spot that I’d watch as a CFB fan, but it’s not game of the week material for a major network.
Posted on 8/2/23 at 8:51 pm to Tiger Prawn
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Only if the ACC implodes and FSU and Clemson can get out of their ACC GOR become available. Those are the biggest names on the board for any future realignment, so if the ACC collapses then the SEC would have good reason to expand right now and add at least FSU and Clemson to keep them from going to the B1G and keep the B1G from gaining media markets in SEC territory
Why Clemson over a school like North Carolina?
Posted on 8/2/23 at 8:52 pm to Ralph_Wiggum
Sankey is a dumbass
Posted on 8/2/23 at 9:10 pm to TomRollTideRitter
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The problem with the B1G for the networks is this in a given week: 1) FOX picks up Ohio State playing Penn State 2) CBS picks Michigan playing whoever because it’s Michigan 3) NBC is left with what game? The remaining teams in the league are not national game of the week draws.
USC?
Posted on 8/2/23 at 9:39 pm to Ralph_Wiggum
What’s the current contact?
Posted on 8/2/23 at 9:47 pm to DBG
The SEC is still the premier conference and will continue to be. You can say what you want about what Sankey inherited, but grabbing Oklahoma and Texas, especially in the manner that he did, was brilliant.
Posted on 8/2/23 at 9:48 pm to TackySweater
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This guy is claiming that SEC presidents are holding a meeting tomorrow on if they should add 4 to 6 ACC schools.
This guy is claiming that SEC presidents are holding a meeting tomorrow on if they should add 4 to 6 ACC schools.
Posted on 8/2/23 at 9:49 pm to GoldenBoy
G-Boy 
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