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re: Ory Williams commits to LSU

Posted on 7/30/23 at 6:48 pm to
Posted by Yippie_Ky_yae
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Posted on 7/30/23 at 6:48 pm to
Posted by DBG
vermont
Member since May 2004
73438 posts
Posted on 7/30/23 at 6:52 pm to
Wait until senior year evals reflect the rankings before you cry like a baby

If Dahvon Keys moving up from 449 to 400 on On3 to be a 4 star makes you feel good, then so be it
This post was edited on 7/30/23 at 6:59 pm
Posted by Rouge
Floston Paradise
Member since Oct 2004
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Posted on 7/30/23 at 6:53 pm to
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DFW


South of Austin, but we aren't playing geography here.
Posted by king47
Member since Aug 2020
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Posted on 7/30/23 at 6:55 pm to
Watch the tape.. then comment. If you haven’t watched the tape on the 3 stars the hush. If you have then still hush. Because if you still came to that conclusion after watching their film then you don’t know football and what translates to success in college.
Posted by Willietd
Member since Apr 2017
1875 posts
Posted on 7/30/23 at 6:59 pm to
I can't understand why folks feel the need to shite on kids who commit to us because something doesn't match what they think they understand about recruiting. I will always say I want kids who want to be here. With the portal kids leave schools they were committed to all the time. We missed on 5 star Denver Harris until he transferred in the portal. When kids commit, these threads shouldn't be infiltrated with arm chair recruiting gurus negativity. It should be a celebration. Looking at this kids offer list I'd say we got someone good.
Posted by Menatiger
Mena, Arkanss
Member since Sep 2018
1159 posts
Posted on 7/30/23 at 7:19 pm to
I’m not negative especially about the said recruit, Ory. He is a fine kid and has the size, but he doesn’t have the experience or the coaching to put him in the upper echelons of the upper 4 and 5 stars I’ve seen present and past. He does have a lot of potential to surpass a lot that I’ve seen. I made a straight up obvious point with our average recruiting numbers. No matter what Peter puffers tell you these numbers don’t keep up with the joneses ie; Bama, Georgia, Clemson or others. It is a valid point. We have twenty recruits and we can take 10 more? Do the math mouth breather.
Posted by 0
Member since Aug 2011
16790 posts
Posted on 7/30/23 at 7:20 pm to
quote:

Watch the tape.. then comment. If you haven’t watched the tape on the 3 stars the hush. If you have then still hush. Because if you still came to that conclusion after watching their film then you don’t know football and what translates to success in college.


So what, In your opinion, translates to success in college?
Posted by Willietd
Member since Apr 2017
1875 posts
Posted on 7/30/23 at 7:21 pm to
Disagreeing with your point doesn't make anyone a mouth breather. It shines a light on you though.
Posted by DBG
vermont
Member since May 2004
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Posted on 7/30/23 at 7:30 pm to
Ory Williams is a top candidate to rocket up the rankings.

Ignore his star ranking for a moment, let’s look at his offer and visit list. He’s offered by LSU, Texas, Texas AM, Florida, Georgia, Auburn, Oregon, Florida State, and Tennessee, among others.

He officially visited, per On3, Florida, UGA, Texas, and Texas AM, along with LSU. This is what’s key. Schools don’t throw away the resources of an official visit on players they aren’t really interested in.

He’s legit
Posted by Tigger98
Member since Oct 2020
914 posts
Posted on 7/30/23 at 7:31 pm to
Booooooooooooooooooom!
This post was edited on 7/31/23 at 8:35 am
Posted by FATBOY TIGER
Valhalla
Member since Jan 2016
9948 posts
Posted on 7/30/23 at 7:44 pm to
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I hope there is a lot of potential in the now Eight 3*’s. Well one Belloit has 4 on one site and one head case 4* that is about de-commit. I expect down votes because most of y’all can’t see over the purple and gold glasses or read to the end. I truly hope the 40% of this 2024 class, so far, has a huge upside.

Sure coaches know more than you and I, but numbers don’t lie.




BALLS
Posted by kajunman
Member since Dec 2015
4985 posts
Posted on 7/30/23 at 7:46 pm to
Lloyd Cushenberry.
Damien Lewis.

Both 3 star players. Too bad neither of them amounted to much. Think of what the 2019 LSU offense could have been if they were 4 star. Maybe both have a shot one day in the NFL. Get some time in the XFL and catch a scouts eye and maybe they'll have a chance to stick in the NFL.
Posted by SoloTiger
Member since Aug 2016
9966 posts
Posted on 7/30/23 at 7:53 pm to
I see why the coaches are high on him. He's got a great frame, feet, and moves really well for an OT.

That said he is raw and will need to get stronger. Future NFL potential down the road.

High 3 star seems about right, but I could see him moving up to a low 4 star with a really good senior season.
Posted by Purple Spoon
Hoth
Member since Feb 2005
18523 posts
Posted on 7/30/23 at 7:59 pm to
Let me say this about the kid. He plays for a school that has not had a winning season is a long time. If he played for a state title contender with the resources and training programs to develop a kid like this, he is easily a 4 or 5 star.

I believe this kid sees significant playing time as a sophomore at LSU
Posted by Keltic Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2006
19866 posts
Posted on 7/30/23 at 8:05 pm to
I always laff at these "experts ( ranters who have watched football for decades ) who proclaim that they know better than football professionals who evaluate & recruit for a living. I could give probably 100's of examples of your horrible 3 stars who developed into SEC level starters. But this one kinda sticks out : Corey Webster was a 2 star. Do you need his college / pro resume'? As an aside, UGA offered him. You know better than UGA's recruiting staff I guess? Wanna check their recruiting success the past 4-5 years?
This post was edited on 7/30/23 at 8:15 pm
Posted by kajunman
Member since Dec 2015
4985 posts
Posted on 7/30/23 at 8:06 pm to
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High 3 star seems about right, but I could see him moving up to a low 4 star with a really good senior season.
O line in general is different when assigning stars. Some of the best o linemen weren't highly ranked. It's a development position second only to qb.
Posted by Good Times
Hill top in Tn
Member since Nov 2007
23714 posts
Posted on 7/30/23 at 8:28 pm to
First i’d like to welcome Ory to Tiger Nation. I hope that your time at LSU is both healthy and successful. I hope your personal goals are achieved, as well as team goals.

Comment on stars and rankings.
I would rather our coaches select based on potential. I also value the other staff evaluations more than recruiting services. Although recruiting services also use the staffs opinions to form their own star system. As previously noted, a kid with less accessibility to top facilities and better coaching will “bloom” in a top college environment.

I’m happy with our coaches and happy that Ory feels the same way.
Posted by Relham10
Ridge
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 7/30/23 at 9:12 pm to
Thats a large man
Posted by FemaleTiger
neverneverland
Member since Jul 2008
810 posts
Posted on 7/30/23 at 9:13 pm to
Shut up!
Posted by tiger81
Brentwood, TN.
Member since Jan 2008
19205 posts
Posted on 7/30/23 at 9:33 pm to
There are few sure things in recruiting, anyone remember Kardell Thomas ? Stars do matter, but so does development after you get them. Recent three stars - Justin Jefferson, Clyde Edwards Helaire, Cushenberry, Foster Moreau, etc.
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