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Indexed Universal Life policy. Who has done it?

Posted on 7/27/23 at 11:55 am
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
49183 posts
Posted on 7/27/23 at 11:55 am
Seems like a good way to invest if you have the extra money to do so?
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35252 posts
Posted on 7/27/23 at 1:46 pm to
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Seems like a good way to invest
Posted by UltimaParadox
Huntsville
Member since Nov 2008
40909 posts
Posted on 7/27/23 at 1:47 pm to
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a good way to invest


What are we investing in? The insurance salesman?

Don't mix insurance and investments
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
24240 posts
Posted on 7/27/23 at 2:35 pm to
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Seems like a good way to invest if you have the extra money to do so?



Explain the product to an 8th grader in three sentences or less.

Complex products are never something I'm interested in "investing" in.
Posted by FriscoTiger1973
Frisco, Texas
Member since Jan 2012
1414 posts
Posted on 7/27/23 at 3:32 pm to
No, always buy term and invest the difference. Any form of whole life is a rip off.
Posted by TDsngumbo
Alpha Silverfox
Member since Oct 2011
41889 posts
Posted on 7/27/23 at 4:46 pm to
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Indexed Universal Life policy. Who has done it?

Fools who don’t understand investing and opportunity cost.
Posted by LSUtotheCore
On the water
Member since Jan 2016
124 posts
Posted on 7/27/23 at 5:32 pm to

Term or whole life, universal life is a horrible product.
Posted by La Place Mike
West Florida Republic
Member since Jan 2004
28896 posts
Posted on 7/27/23 at 8:54 pm to
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Seems like a good way to invest


Permanent life insurance is not an investment product. It is insurance and should be used with that in mind.

Posted by La Place Mike
West Florida Republic
Member since Jan 2004
28896 posts
Posted on 7/27/23 at 8:58 pm to
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Posted by MrJimBeam
Member since Apr 2009
12440 posts
Posted on 7/27/23 at 11:04 pm to
When a guy told me him and his family gradually transition term to full life policies over time as part of the investment portfolio I knew then and there I was done. It’s just obvious when people are either too dumb or only care about how much they make. If one of your biggest pitches continually comes back to high as giraffe pussy insurance then I’m done.
This post was edited on 7/28/23 at 6:12 am
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
27383 posts
Posted on 7/28/23 at 9:12 am to
I’m by no means an expert, but in my review of the product, it seems like I would be combining index investing with a non-investment life insurance product and paying someone for the privilege of bundling them together for me?

Even ignoring my standard objections to whole life policies, could you explain what benefit this brings when compared to simply buying a whole life plan and investing in index funds separately?
Posted by LSUtiger89
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
3670 posts
Posted on 7/28/23 at 11:36 am to
nope. Def not
Posted by Dixie Normus
Earth
Member since Sep 2013
2647 posts
Posted on 7/31/23 at 8:30 am to
The only people who will see a real benefit from them are extremely high earners. Any index fund will outperform them.

The primary uses, in my opinion, are to pay estate taxes if they will be owed when you sue (very unlikely) or to use as a tool to loan money against on the cheap later in life. If those things seem appealing to you, then look into it. Otherwise, just but a term policy and invest the difference.
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