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Posted on 11/24/08 at 1:12 pm to bayoutiggah
Posted on 11/24/08 at 1:12 pm to bayoutiggah
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he can throw it to the other team without one of our recievers touching the ball....
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Posted on 11/24/08 at 1:14 pm to bayoutiggah
JJ is a natural QB. I think he'll be better than Lee.
Posted on 11/24/08 at 1:14 pm to TheDoc
Look I've been defending lee all season and still am. he does have potential. i will also agree with those saying he hasnt really showed much improvement over the season. JJ isnt ready either, though i do have to say he has showed much more improvement in the limited time he has seen. what that means i dont know. i dont think anyone here does. im just interested to see whats gonna happen vrs arkansas. we will potentially have our 3 qbs back again.
Posted on 11/24/08 at 1:16 pm to LSshoe
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we will potentially have our 3 qbs back again.
Where are you hearing this?
I was under the assumption that neither Hatch nor Lee would be healthy this week.
Posted on 11/24/08 at 1:19 pm to LSshoe
well that's actually an intelligent post unlike some on the rant. I agree that lee and jefferson both have potential to be great, unfortunately Lee was thrown in the fire and expected to lead us to glory. Fact of the matter is, our problems go far deeper than the QB position. We can through TD after TD...does no good if we can't stop the other team from doing the same.
My sole problem with Lee though is that he hasn't shown improvement through 11 games this year, he has repeatedly made the same mistakes over and over and i think he is lost all confidence. I've wanted JJ in from day one b/c i believe he adds another dimension to our offense that lee can't provide.
My sole problem with Lee though is that he hasn't shown improvement through 11 games this year, he has repeatedly made the same mistakes over and over and i think he is lost all confidence. I've wanted JJ in from day one b/c i believe he adds another dimension to our offense that lee can't provide.
Posted on 11/24/08 at 1:29 pm to wilceaux
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I was under the assumption that neither Hatch nor Lee would be healthy this week.
the dark side of my brain...?
idn i just heard that hatch would be back and i didnt think lees injury was that bad. i really have no idea...
perhaps i can start a thread about it. maybe it will ease the pain of all the les miles sucks maleveto sucks lsu is going to die threads
Posted on 11/24/08 at 1:30 pm to LSshoe
Hatch is a possibility....but i think Lee may be doubtful
Posted on 11/24/08 at 1:37 pm to bayoutiggah
I think Lee will be a good pocket passer, but he requires too much time to make his reads. Jefferson will be a triple threat, especially when he gets out of the pocket. Which one does Croten/Miles want?
Posted on 11/24/08 at 1:42 pm to SuperFan
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But that's it - it doesn't matter how many resulted in TD's - an interception is almost always the QB's fault - an interception returned for a TD is the fault of the entire offense.
Yes because LSU's offense practices tackling drills everyday and five 300lb+ players are suppose to catch up to a CB or LB not to mention all the receivers and running backs are way behind the interceptor.
Posted on 11/24/08 at 1:48 pm to msutiger
THATS A STUPID THING TO GET PISSED ABOUT. LET IT GO, PEOPLE CAN SAY WHAT THEY WANT. JUST ENJOY THE REST OF THE SEASON. PEACE OUT
Posted on 11/24/08 at 1:49 pm to wilceaux
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Name one thing that Lee does better than JJ besides the deep ball.
Actually lead our team to scoring enough points to win.
Posted on 11/24/08 at 1:50 pm to geauxjo
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Actually lead our team to scoring enough points to win.
And you know that JJ can't do this, how exactly?
Posted on 11/24/08 at 1:55 pm to JPLSU1981
If there is anything I have learned this season is that Lee is NOT a good QB and he has gotten worse with experience not better. He is by far the worst QB I have ever seen at reading a defense and looking off his primary receiver. It just seems like he will throw to his primary WR on every play if he sees that he is open for a second but throws the pick when the defense hides their coverage. I just dont see him ever improving. If you dont improve by week 11 then you have serious issues. The NFL will never sniff this kid. I would love to know who claims that he will be in the NFL. LINK?
Posted on 11/24/08 at 1:58 pm to wilceaux
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And you know that JJ can't do this, how exactly?
Well, for starters, its hard to lead your team to anything when you don't know the offense. That kept him from more significant snaps for a time. When he was finally given a shot and then assumed all the snaps following JL's injury it showed exaclty where JJ is as of now--unable to lead us to enough points to win. The offense was totally dead in the 4th quarter. About 32 yards in our last 20 snaps. Ineffective. I like how he looks...big, athletic, fast, smooth....but ineffective- as most true freshmen would be also.
Posted on 11/24/08 at 2:03 pm to LSUMJ
JJ is already better than Lee:
1) He looked off receivers! Wow what a novel concept.
2)He did a pump fake. Lee hasn't pump faked at all this season.
3)This was Jefferson's first game and he already looked more comfortable than Lee has all season..
4)He completed a TOUCH pass to Tolliver. Lee has yet to do that.
5)He brings and added dimension because he is mobile.
6) The team responded to his presence in the huddle. It reminded me of when Booty finally got benched and Rohan came in.
7)Jefferson is a player. He comes to play on every down. Lee looks lost and confused and has played all season.
8) Jefferson did not throw a pick 6. The interception was right off Tolliver's hands. A PERFECT THROW. Not saying that hasn't happened to Lee, but Lee thinks we wear the other team's colors every game.
"Jefferson has a stronger arm throwing the football, and his live arm is helped by the fact he can do some damage with the ball under his arm, something he quickly proved by finishing as his team's leading rusher (51 yards), a stat reduced to 23 yards, mainly on three sacks.
Like Lee, Jefferson is a work in progress, but with much more of an upside. "
1) He looked off receivers! Wow what a novel concept.
2)He did a pump fake. Lee hasn't pump faked at all this season.
3)This was Jefferson's first game and he already looked more comfortable than Lee has all season..
4)He completed a TOUCH pass to Tolliver. Lee has yet to do that.
5)He brings and added dimension because he is mobile.
6) The team responded to his presence in the huddle. It reminded me of when Booty finally got benched and Rohan came in.
7)Jefferson is a player. He comes to play on every down. Lee looks lost and confused and has played all season.
8) Jefferson did not throw a pick 6. The interception was right off Tolliver's hands. A PERFECT THROW. Not saying that hasn't happened to Lee, but Lee thinks we wear the other team's colors every game.
"Jefferson has a stronger arm throwing the football, and his live arm is helped by the fact he can do some damage with the ball under his arm, something he quickly proved by finishing as his team's leading rusher (51 yards), a stat reduced to 23 yards, mainly on three sacks.
Like Lee, Jefferson is a work in progress, but with much more of an upside. "
Posted on 11/24/08 at 2:06 pm to djack13
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A PERFECT THROW
Nah, it was high.
But my point is that JJ's upside is much greater than Lee's at this point in time, for many of the reasons you gave.
Posted on 11/24/08 at 2:09 pm to djack13
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JJ is already better than Lee:
Like I've said before....JJ is much more fun to watch right now...big, athletic, fast, smooth...and can score hardly any points for us. When the game was over the scoreboard said "13". That's pathetic. Can he get better? Probably so, but to say he's already better than Lee? Not until he can actually lead us to more than a touchdown or so.
Posted on 11/24/08 at 2:10 pm to geauxjo
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My sole problem with Lee though is that he hasn't shown improvement through 11 games this year, he has repeatedly made the same mistakes over and over and i think he is lost all confidence. I've wanted JJ in from day one b/c i believe he adds another dimension to our offense that lee can't provide.
+1
Nothing to get pissed about. The purpose of the Rant is expressing opinions. And here's mine...
JL offers 0 threat as an option QB. JJ does.
JL has shown 0 improvement in 11 games. JJ has shown improvement in 1/2 game.
JL simply doesn't have a football players mind. Doesn't see the field, doesn't read defenses, hasn't shown the ability to know when to throw it away. JJ has show at least the same amount of these skills that JL has in 1/2 game.
You might be tired of hearing people wanting JJ over JL. Well, I'm equally tired of hearing about "JL's potential". I've known a lot of frick-ups with tons of "potential".
This post was edited on 11/24/08 at 2:11 pm
Posted on 11/24/08 at 2:11 pm to LSU510
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And pro scouts also thought Ryan Leaf was a good quarterback.
Poor analogy. Generally, they get it right. Unless you're talking about Leaf and the Texan's choice of David Carr. But...the Texans haven't picked much right.
Posted on 11/24/08 at 2:13 pm to AustinTigr
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JJ has shown improvement in 1/2 game
Now, what does this mean? Actually from the time he went in to the end of the game he digressed considerably. The offense was dead in the 4th quarter. He had a couple of nice series' then went flat. If we're being honest.
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