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re: Tim Ballard, Inspiration Behind ‘Sound of Freedom,’ Quietly Leaves Anti-Trafficking Group

Posted on 7/14/23 at 8:13 am to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 7/14/23 at 8:13 am to
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If you were as smart as you try to make people think you are you’d have got in with Wiki and hit the crypto jackpot.

Wiki didn't even support BTC as an investment.

He viewed it as a currency, as I did. I used it that way, too. I was using BTC prior to the first bubble, FWIW.

I do joke with one of my good friends that one night when I ran a heater on Omaha online (making 2 BTC, which at that point was like $1k), it could have paid for a Ferrari at BTC's peak.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 7/14/23 at 8:15 am to
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You are really on a rampage of trolling lately. This version of you is despicable


This is who he is.

Whan autism and narcissism meet head on.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
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Posted on 7/14/23 at 8:23 am to
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While the circumstances around Ballard’s departure are somewhat unclear..


Wrong. He plainly states them while appearing on Tim Pools show.

The Spear Fund


This post was edited on 7/14/23 at 8:27 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 7/14/23 at 8:24 am to
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He plainly states them while appearing on Tim Pools show.

this story (and thread, I believe) were both created prior to this appearance.

in fact, I think one poster IIT discusses it while it was going on live.
Posted by SirWinston
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Posted on 7/14/23 at 8:29 am to
the CIA literally runs RS. The greatest American journalist of our time Matt Taibbi was forced out
This post was edited on 7/14/23 at 8:30 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 7/14/23 at 8:36 am to
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You are really on a rampage of trolling lately. This version of you is despicable


I'm channeling my inner 2016. Think of me like a straight, honest version of 2016 Milo or Lauren Southern

Posted by bird35
Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 7/14/23 at 8:42 am to
Remember a few weeks ago when RFK jr revealed Rolling Stone magazine was run by a CIA operative????

Well, we know the foreign muscle of the Democratic Party (CIA), and the Domestic muscle of the Democratic Party (FBI, DOJ) do NOT want to expose or stop child trafficking.

Posted by Timeoday
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Posted on 7/14/23 at 8:44 am to
Since his original post in 1/04, he has averaged over 117 per day!!

Posted by au4you
Alabama
Member since Dec 2010
2554 posts
Posted on 7/14/23 at 8:50 am to
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It's easy to hide behind very commendable goals but just because they say they are doing something and provide glossy promotional materials to that effect doesn't mean they are. And insiders paying themselves really big bucks is a huge red flag, especially at a non-profit. Would you do that?


Yeah, I think people are letting a movie dictate their feelings. Of course, the movie shows him as some badass taking down evil. It’s still a movie.

Reality is that a lot of similar departments and organizations are not his biggest fan and question the legitimacy of his claims.

Some even believe he’s even made the problem worse by actually creating child trafficking markets in places that wouldn’t otherwise have a market.

The other concern is that he’s using this notoriety to make start pushing cross fit gyms and other ventures.

Again, people (leftists and conservatives) want to believe something so badly that they won’t entertain criticism. It’s a movie folks, not real life.

The one bright spot is the light being shed on how bad movie theaters are in this country. The TiikToks about the deep state cutting ac and leaving lights on really shows how bad the movie theatre experience typically is.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
262007 posts
Posted on 7/14/23 at 8:54 am to
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the CIA literally runs RS.


They're also funding a lot of "independent media"

Which is simply propaganda.
Posted by dukkbill
Member since Aug 2012
796 posts
Posted on 7/14/23 at 8:56 am to
So your loosely related points about “government overreach” crashes into a wall. Your first pivot on “it’s not a big problem” is shown not to stand up to qualitative or quantitative analysis”. Your “OmG think of the children, I don’t want this to be partisan” doesn’t fool anyone. Now you have pivoted to “more harm than good” ( which could be a reasonable discussion), but when you get caught for trolling, you go full Jon Stewart with “I’m just being a clown”
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 7/14/23 at 8:59 am to
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So your loosely related points about “government overreach” crashes into a wall.

That's one issue.

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Your first pivot on “it’s not a big problem” is shown not to stand up to qualitative or quantitative analysis”.

Sure that won't stand up, but that's a literal straw man

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Your “OmG think of the children, I don’t want this to be partisan” doesn’t fool anyone

People who want to make this a partisan issue are too emotionally invested to stop.

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Now you have pivoted to “more harm than good”

His specific operation? Yes, that is possible.

You do realize these are all separate concepts that you're combining and re-defining, right? When in reality they are all separate.

The film, OUR, Ballard, Jim Caviezel, Juan O. Savin, international human trafficking (and all the sub-types therein), domestic human trafficking (and all the sub-types therein), etc. are all separate concepts to be discussed separately.

The logical fallacy you're engaging in (in combination with lots of Straw Man usage), is to take a comment about one concept and apply it to another. Then when you're called out for this, you just fall back on general pejoratives trying to shame.
This post was edited on 7/14/23 at 9:01 am
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
262007 posts
Posted on 7/14/23 at 9:00 am to
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So your loosely related points about “government overreach” crashes into a wall.

That's one issue.


youre just flinging shite.

Just one "I did go too far this time" would go a long way to restoring a shred of credibility to you again.
Posted by dukkbill
Member since Aug 2012
796 posts
Posted on 7/14/23 at 9:52 am to
I think you misunderstand. I am not ascribing you an argument and then arguing against it. Likewise, I am not conflating multiple points into the same issue. I will admit, I’m not sure how you see this at all, but that is moot

I have( and would again) pointed out how you respond to a discussion of one issue with another tangentially related issue, but that is also out of scope of this discussion

Most important, you misunderstand the point of my post, which I will take responsibility for as I appear to need to communicate it more clearly

I’m not in a debate contest with you. I Don’t seek to discredit you to discredit your argument by attacking you. I don’t know that I’m “shaming” you, but you may interpret that term differently

I am though most assuredly commenting on your reply to being called out for trolling, namely your Stewartish response of “ just trying to make this fun”. Thus the point is about your behavior and justification, and not about your veracity, capability or generalized character. I trust you can understand the difference

Nevertheless, if getting a sophomoric rhetoric lecture is my initiation into the “Qmunity” then please let me know where I can pick up my Patriot card
This post was edited on 7/14/23 at 9:53 am
Posted by ItNeverRains
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Posted on 7/14/23 at 10:08 am to
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They're probably worried the same thing that happened during the Wayfair crisis is going to happen with this movie which did negatively affect victims of trafficking by hurting the organizations that tried to help them


By this retard logic Chris Hansen must haunt these people’s dreams at night.

Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
424210 posts
Posted on 7/14/23 at 10:11 am to
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By this retard logic Chris Hansen must haunt these people’s dreams at night.


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Polaris Project: How Unproven Trafficking Stories Spread Online and Why Stopping Them Matters

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A barrage of conspiracy-related reports from people with no direct knowledge of trafficking situations can overwhelm services meant for victims.

There are only so many Hotline Advocates available at any one time to handle incoming contacts to the Trafficking Hotline. Hundreds or thousands of people sharing the same information means long wait times for victims in crisis or service providers trying to find immediate help for someone in need. These long waits may literally mean the difference between someone finding the help they need to escape or having to hang up because they can’t get through.

Survivors, victims, or even accidental bystanders may lose their privacy or be negatively impacted.

The Wayfair theory has already resulted in online harassment and privacy intrusions of people mistakenly believed to be victims, as well as broad sharing of online sexual abuse material of actual victims who have not been connected in any way to Wayfair. This harm is real for survivors who want to maintain their privacy, victims who are being re-exploited by broader distribution of their abuse materials, or bystanders whose lives can be overwhelmed by the actions of potentially well-meaning online communities.

Conspiracies distract from the more disturbing but simple realities of how sex trafficking actually works, and how we can prevent it.

The truth of the matter is that the “villains” of sex trafficking are less likely to be members of a secretive network involved in a bizarre or convoluted scheme than they are to be some of your neighbors – a local businessman, pastor, doctor, lawyer, military officer, or government official. Sex trafficking simply would not occur if there were no customers – generally men – buying sex.

Similarly, while anyone can of course become a victim of sex trafficking, it is rarely perpetrated by a total stranger who kidnaps children. People – including children – who have other vulnerabilities are far more likely to be victimized, and often the perpetrators are people the victims know and may even love or trust.


Posted by tigersmanager
Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 7/14/23 at 10:11 am to
he's all twisted up
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
424210 posts
Posted on 7/14/23 at 10:12 am to
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he's all twisted up

No. Take it up with an actual anti-trafficking organization (see post above your's)
Posted by ChexMix
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Posted on 7/14/23 at 10:15 am to
What is your point?
Posted by FreedomBarefoot
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Posted on 7/14/23 at 10:34 am to
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