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Trump performed worse in GOP swing state counties in 2020 than he did in 2016

Posted on 7/2/23 at 9:22 pm
Posted by Jon Ham
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Posted on 7/2/23 at 9:22 pm
Hypothesis: There is a theory that Dems flipped the 2020 election by creating fraudulent ballots in heavily Democratic counties in swing states. If this is the only reason Biden won, then Trump should have performed the same or better in Republican counties in these states compared to how he performed in 2016.

Method: I will randomly pick 4 counties in swing states that Trump won by at least 5% in 2016, trying to sample different parts of each state. I will compare the 2016 results to the 2020 results to see if Trump performed the same or better in these counties.

Result: Trump maintained or performed better in 2 out of the 12 counties sampled. Biden performed better than Hillary in 10 out of the 12 counties.


note: “Total Voters” is approximate just to give an idea of size of each county.


Wisconsin

2016 Polk: Trump +27.7%
2020 Polk: Trump +27.5%
Total voters: 10,000

2016 Lincoln: Trump +21.8%
2020 Lincoln: Trump +22.7%
Total voters: 14,000

2016 Grant: Trump +9.5%
2020 Grant: Trump +12.3%
Total voters: 22,000

2016 Winnebago: Trump +7.5%
2020 Winnebago: Trump +4%
Total voters: 80,000

Average Trump margin of victory change from 2016 to 2020 across these 4 counties: unchanged

Analysis: While the average margin of victory stayed the same for these four counties from 2016 to 2020, Biden made up ground due to the better result he had than Hillary in the largest county, Winnebago.


Pennsylvania

2016 Crawford: Trump +38.5%
2020 Crawford: Trump +37.2%
Total voters: 42,000

2016 Cambria: Trump +37.7%
2020 Cambria: Trump +37.3%
Total voters: 70,000

2016 Luzerne: Trump +19.6%
2020 Luzerne: Trump +14.4%
Total voters: 152,000

2016 Berks: Trump +10.2%
2020 Berks: Trump +8.2%
Total voters: 203,000

Average Trump margin of victory change from 2016 to 2020 across these 4 counties: -2.3%

Analysis: Biden performed better than Hillary in all of these counties.


Georgia

2016 Hall: Trump +50.7%
2020 Hall: Trump +43.3%
Total voters: 89,000

2016 Columbia: Trump +37.7%
2020 Columbia: Trump +25.8%
Total voters: 79,000

2016 Glynn: Trump +28.6%
2020 Glynn: Trump +23.2%
Total voters: 42,000

2016 Floyd: Trump +43.6%
2020 Floyd: Trump +41.1%
Total voters: 41,000

Average Trump margin of victory change from 2016 to 2020 across these 4 counties: -6.8%

Analysis: Biden performed better than Hillary in all of these counties.
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 7/2/23 at 9:26 pm to
Posted by Jjdoc
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Posted on 7/2/23 at 9:28 pm to
Flawed... WOW!




Posted by Jon Ham
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 7/2/23 at 9:28 pm to
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 7/2/23 at 9:29 pm to
quote:

Hypothesis: There is a theory that Dems flipped the 2020 election by creating fraudulent ballots in heavily Democratic counties in swing states. If this is the only reason Biden won, then Trump should have performed the same or better in Republican counties in these states compared to how he performed in 2016.


Hypothesis is flawed.


quote:

Method: I will randomly pick 4 counties in swing states that Trump won by at least 5% in 2016, trying to sample different parts of each state. I will compare the 2016 results to the 2020 results to see if Trump performed the same or better in these counties.




Talk about flawed.

Are you 12 still?


quote:

Result: Trump maintained or performed better in 2 out of the 12 counties sampled.



2? Yet your own data says you are wrong.


2016 Polk: Trump +27.7%
2020 Polk: Trump +27.5%
Total voters: 10,000

2016 Lincoln: Trump +21.8%
2020 Lincoln: Trump +22.7%
Total voters: 14,000

2016 Grant: Trump +9.5%
2020 Grant: Trump +12.3%
Total voters: 22,000

That's 3 just in WI.


Posted by Jon Ham
Member since Jun 2011
29609 posts
Posted on 7/2/23 at 9:31 pm to
quote:

2? Yet your own data says you are wrong.


2016 Polk: Trump +27.7%
2020 Polk: Trump +27.5%
Total voters: 10,000

2016 Lincoln: Trump +21.8%
2020 Lincoln: Trump +22.7%
Total voters: 14,000

2016 Grant: Trump +9.5%
2020 Grant: Trump +12.3%
Total voters: 22,000

That's 3 just in WI.




Posted by Jon Ham
Member since Jun 2011
29609 posts
Posted on 7/2/23 at 9:31 pm to
quote:

Flawed... WOW!


Posted by 4x4tiger
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2006
5210 posts
Posted on 7/2/23 at 9:32 pm to


Dems cheated. Polls in swing states shut down at the same time ( early morning hours) to see how many votes they needed to win. Some make it seem complicated but it's really a simple explanation
This post was edited on 7/2/23 at 9:33 pm
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 7/2/23 at 9:33 pm to
quote:

2? Yet your own data says you are wrong.


2016 Polk: Trump +27.7%
2020 Polk: Trump +27.5%
Total voters: 10,000

2016 Lincoln: Trump +21.8%
2020 Lincoln: Trump +22.7%
Total voters: 14,000

2016 Grant: Trump +9.5%
2020 Grant: Trump +12.3%
Total voters: 22,000

That's 3 just in WI.




JJSpambot displays his disingenuous trait for all to see.
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 7/2/23 at 9:33 pm to
Aren't those the same swing states, counties and precincts that implemented the mass mail in ballot harvesting scheme to rig the outcome of the 2020 GE?
Posted by nugget
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Posted on 7/2/23 at 9:34 pm to
JJbot was down for a couple week while they loaded up its new code and now it’s got 17 additional polls to post! The firmware also allows it to switch from believing polls to not believing polls in under 5 minutes. What an incredible bot we got folks!
This post was edited on 7/2/23 at 9:35 pm
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 7/2/23 at 9:34 pm to
Trump got fewer votes in my county in 2020 than he did 2016.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
170751 posts
Posted on 7/2/23 at 9:35 pm to
quote:

JJbot was down for a couple week while they loaded up its new code and now it’s got 17 additional polls to post! The firmware also allows it to switch from believing polls to not believing polls in under 5 minutes. What an incredible bot we got folks!

Dude is the most pathetic bitch I've ever encountered online
Posted by Jon Ham
Member since Jun 2011
29609 posts
Posted on 7/2/23 at 9:35 pm to
quote:

Aren't those the same swing states, counties and precincts that implemented the mass mail in ballot harvesting scheme to rig the outcome of the 2020 GE?


These are all GOP counties we are talking about, most of them are heavily GOP.
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
55386 posts
Posted on 7/2/23 at 9:36 pm to
You are a kid. Never grew up and can not read. You stated that he either maintained or gained in only 2 of the 12 counties you "cherry picked".

Then your first 3 SHOWS he maintained 1 and grew 2.

Again, your whole thought process is seriously flawed.
Posted by thermal9221
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Posted on 7/2/23 at 9:36 pm to
How many poli board threads have you started in the last 10 days?

Freak show
Posted by Jjdoc
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Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 7/2/23 at 9:37 pm to
Ah No such thing as electrical steel! You gonna be ok! Promise!

Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 7/2/23 at 9:37 pm to
quote:

How many poli board threads have you started in the last 10 days?

Freak show


I don't recall you asking this in jblapdawg or JJSpambot threads....
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
170751 posts
Posted on 7/2/23 at 9:38 pm to
quote:

2? Yet your own data says you are wrong.


2016 Polk: Trump +27.7%
2020 Polk: Trump +27.5%
Total voters: 10,000

2016 Lincoln: Trump +21.8%
2020 Lincoln: Trump +22.7%
Total voters: 14,000

2016 Grant: Trump +9.5%
2020 Grant: Trump +12.3%
Total voters: 22,000

That's 3 just in WI.



2016 Polk: Trump +27.7%
2020 Polk: Trump +27.5%

2016 Polk: Trump +27.7%
2020 Polk: Trump +27.5%

2016 Polk: Trump +27.7%
2020 Polk: Trump +27.5%

2016 Polk: Trump +27.7%
2020 Polk: Trump +27.5%

2016 Polk: Trump +27.7%
2020 Polk: Trump +27.5%

2016 Polk: Trump +27.7%
2020 Polk: Trump +27.5%

2016 Polk: Trump +27.7%
2020 Polk: Trump +27.5%
Posted by Pechon
unperson
Member since Oct 2011
7748 posts
Posted on 7/2/23 at 9:39 pm to
quote:

I don't recall you asking this in jblapdawg or JJSpambot threads....


It's been like clockwork. Every time a thread is posted not putting daddy in a good light:

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