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TDA moving to Schwab need advice

Posted on 7/2/23 at 3:01 pm
Posted by Joe D Grinder
Member since Jun 2014
870 posts
Posted on 7/2/23 at 3:01 pm
Wanted to get some suggestions from the MT board. I'm having to move in Sept and it's a good thing as I've been lazy about my solo 401k. It's in a T. Rowe 2045 fund and I don't necessarily like it. Full disclosure, my actual retirement age is 2035, but I wanted to be more aggressive.

Anyway, I have about $325k sitting in there now and wondering what fund to throw it into with my monthly auto-invest? Figuring a Schwab fund is best to avoid fees and such but I don't know much about Schwab yet. I looked at at couple funds quickly: SWYHX 2045 index fund and SWPPX S&P 500 index fund so far. Thoughts on those or any other recommendations would be appreciated
Posted by beaverfever
Arkansas
Member since Jan 2008
35461 posts
Posted on 7/2/23 at 3:48 pm to
I would stop buying target date funds immediately.
Posted by Joe D Grinder
Member since Jun 2014
870 posts
Posted on 7/2/23 at 4:10 pm to
Yeah, that's where my head is at. Like I said, I took a lazy approach. Any recs?
Posted by beaverfever
Arkansas
Member since Jan 2008
35461 posts
Posted on 7/2/23 at 4:48 pm to
I’d do something like this based off what you’ve shared.

ITOT-25%
VUG-10%
VTV-20%
RSP-5%
VO-10%
VB-5%
CDs or bonds-25%
Posted by Fat Bastard
2024 NFL pick'em champion
Member since Mar 2009
89305 posts
Posted on 7/2/23 at 5:19 pm to
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I would stop buying target date funds immediately.




^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^THIS^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
175899 posts
Posted on 7/2/23 at 6:25 pm to
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TDA moving to Schwab need advice

That's exactly what the baseball stadium in Omaha did.
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
25028 posts
Posted on 7/2/23 at 7:10 pm to
Except he should build it using Schwab Select funds so that he doesn’t pay trading fees.
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
42036 posts
Posted on 7/2/23 at 7:14 pm to
Schwab has that intelligent portfolio that auto invest

Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
25028 posts
Posted on 7/2/23 at 7:15 pm to
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Schwab has that intelligent portfolio that auto invest


Would be great if it didn’t have so much cash drag.
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
42036 posts
Posted on 7/2/23 at 7:17 pm to
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Would be great if it didn’t have so much cash drag.


What do you mean by that?

I copied it's investment but don't want it handling my fixed income

I don't know if I am doing good or not to be honest
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
25028 posts
Posted on 7/2/23 at 7:20 pm to
SCHB - total stock market
SCHF - International stock
SCHE - Emerging market stock
SCHZ - Total Bond fund

Those give you what you need through Schwab ETFs.

SWTSX is total market stock mutual fund.
SWISX is international fund.

Schwab doesn’t have a good emerging markets low cost mutual fund.

Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
25028 posts
Posted on 7/2/23 at 7:24 pm to
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What do you mean by that?


Schwab actually got sued for deceptive practices on their intelligent portfolios. In a nut shell, they advise a certain fee (think it’s around 0.25%) but they also use the cash that isn’t invested as float that they can do with as they please. Even on the most aggressive portfolio, 7% of The portfolio is in cash and doesn’t get invested. Over time, this is referred to as “cash drag” because it creates a deviation versus being fully invested in the market. In short, their intelligent portfolios underestimate the cost they charge to clients.
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
25028 posts
Posted on 7/2/23 at 7:29 pm to
I absolutely think the future is AI / intelligent portfolios with built in tax strategy. But, the fees need to get compressed for me to play ball.
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
77835 posts
Posted on 7/2/23 at 7:36 pm to
SCHH is an excellent REIT.

Are you familiar with this one?
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
42036 posts
Posted on 7/2/23 at 7:52 pm to
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7% of The portfolio is in cash and doesn’t get invested. Over time, this is referred to as “cash drag”


Oh

Makes sense yeah that is too much

quote:

In short, their intelligent portfolios underestimate the cost they charge to clients.


Only compounded more with interest rates
This post was edited on 7/2/23 at 7:54 pm
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
25028 posts
Posted on 7/2/23 at 9:07 pm to
Familiar with it but haven’t used it to-date.
Posted by danilo
Member since Nov 2008
24852 posts
Posted on 7/4/23 at 9:13 am to
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I would stop buying target date funds immediately.

Why is that? Fees? Or Expense ratio?
This post was edited on 7/4/23 at 2:11 pm
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
25028 posts
Posted on 7/4/23 at 11:13 am to
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Why is that? Fees?



Fees are higher on target date funds but they are still relatively low through Vanguard, Schwab, and Fidelity. You are probably talking about .12% fees instead of building your own portfolio and blending to around .06%.
Posted by KWL85
Member since Mar 2023
3204 posts
Posted on 7/4/23 at 4:04 pm to
With $325k, a dozen or more years left to retirement and your hands-off approach, you could split it between the total market and s&p500 options that Schwab has. Most will advise some international exposure, but that gets complicated if doing it on your own. Revisit it in a few years to change your mix to include some money into bonds as you get closer to retirement. Or you could pay for financial advice.

Either of these routes are better than a target dated fund.
Posted by LEASTBAY
Member since Aug 2007
16344 posts
Posted on 7/4/23 at 8:23 pm to
Mines being moved also but it's self directed. It's just going to have the same stocks. Are you being forced to buy different funds also?
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