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re: The TRUMP dilemma that doesn’t exist…

Posted on 6/6/23 at 11:10 am to
Posted by tivey6301
Member since Jul 2011
2001 posts
Posted on 6/6/23 at 11:10 am to
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Semper Gumby

Sounds like you should vote for someone else in the Primary.
Posted by tivey6301
Member since Jul 2011
2001 posts
Posted on 6/6/23 at 11:15 am to
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Trump loves Trump
What do you love more than you and yours? Since we're pointing fingers, I was just curious.
Posted by Semper Gumby
Member since Dec 2021
379 posts
Posted on 6/6/23 at 11:16 am to
LA
Posted by King George
Member since Dec 2013
5475 posts
Posted on 6/6/23 at 11:19 am to
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all Trump did was whine about how everyone was against him?
This sums up his 2016 campaign, his presidency, his 2020 campaign and subsequent loss and every day since that loss.

How can one MAGA when one spends all his time complaining about how unfairly the whole world treats him? Wait...this is a defining characteristic of liberal snowflakes.
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
170350 posts
Posted on 6/6/23 at 11:20 am to
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I was all in for Trump


Let me guess...you voted for him twice but...
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
44102 posts
Posted on 6/6/23 at 11:27 am to
I agree with most of your points to a strong degree. except:
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They’re hoping Trump wins the primary so conservatives lose in the general.
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Good strategy. Trump will win the general.

I don't think anyone can beat any Democrat unless something is done about the fraud -
== strict certification of mail-in ballots (both in how they are distributed and how counted)
-------and even if that happens, it will not matter unless something is done about:
== weaponization of Federal Agencies against conservatives
== propaganda disguised as "news" by the media
== censorship of free information exchange

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Knowing his whiny behavior, he’d likely run 3rd party,
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Doubtful.

sadly, I am not so sure - his narcissism is so strong, I am fearful he will risk it all

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THEY want you to hate DeSantis because they know they’re screwed running Biden against him.
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DeSantis can't beat Biden or the Democrat candidate. The Rust Belt is not voting for DeSantis.

agree only if Trump runs 3rd party.
otherwise, I think conservatives will vote for DeSantis - I see no reason not to
ESPECIALLY --- if Ron and Don can keep from destroying each other during the primary (this is what I fear most)

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Desantis will win the general if he can win the primary.

Nope.

Repeat of above - I see nothing to stop conservatives from choosing DeSantis unless they destroy each other.
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AGAIN - my hope above all other hope:
-- Trump and DeSantis come together and run as a ticket with the promise for Trump to be "allowed to "finish his first term" (that he was CHEATED OUT OF by Fraud and Criminal Sedition) and then go off into the sunset for his well deserved honorable retirement after 2 years, thus allowing
- DeSantis finishes the last 2 years and still be eligible for TWO full terms of his own.
Posted by tivey6301
Member since Jul 2011
2001 posts
Posted on 6/6/23 at 11:32 am to
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King George
Sounds like you need to vote for someone other than Trump in the primary.
Posted by Semper Gumby
Member since Dec 2021
379 posts
Posted on 6/6/23 at 11:59 am to
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Let me guess...you voted for him twice but...


I did…and he lost the second time. I don’t understand the determination to lose from some people. Trump cannot win again. The sooner everyone realizes this, we can unite around someone who can win.

Posted by jlnoles79
Member since Jan 2014
13239 posts
Posted on 6/6/23 at 12:02 pm to
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DeSantis can't beat Biden or the Democrat candidate. The Rust Belt is not voting for DeSantis.


Trump can't even win Georgia
Posted by Semper Gumby
Member since Dec 2021
379 posts
Posted on 6/6/23 at 12:03 pm to
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Sounds like you should vote for someone else in the Primary.


Are you suggesting Desantis as well???
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 6/6/23 at 12:11 pm to
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How is it that the Biden admin says “talk to the hand” while ramming all their bullshite on us, while all Trump did was whine about how everyone was against him?
Because Biden's team actually coordinates with Congressional leaders within his party, rather than trying to dictate to them.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
113751 posts
Posted on 6/6/23 at 12:18 pm to
For not being a conservative he certainly put some conservative judges on the Court.
Posted by Semper Gumby
Member since Dec 2021
379 posts
Posted on 6/6/23 at 12:25 pm to
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“For not being a conservative he certainly put some conservative judges on the Court.”

I concede that point, and it will be among a few bright spots of his presidency. I will not downplay its importance.

Handing over all power to bureaucrats during Covid is inexcusable. What’s more inexcusable is when the train was off the tracks with Fauci, he didn’t fire the little bastard. All the Trump supporters who love him for fighting the swamp don’t want to talk about how his nuts were cut when it comes to this. He was either all show, or in over his head.
This post was edited on 6/6/23 at 12:30 pm
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
113751 posts
Posted on 6/6/23 at 12:34 pm to
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Handing over all power to bureaucrats during Covid is inexcusable.


That's 20-20 hindsight. The presidents always consult 'experts' instead of trying to be an expert on everything themselves. The actual meeting to fire Fauci is in one of my books. It was 3 advisors. One said get rid of him, the other two said 'no.'
Posted by oldskule
Down South
Member since Mar 2016
17288 posts
Posted on 6/6/23 at 12:36 pm to
TRUMP is your nominee, accept it!
Posted by Deplorableinohio
Member since Dec 2018
5652 posts
Posted on 6/6/23 at 12:37 pm to
Most republicans in congress are really closet demorats. They just haven’t come out yet.
Posted by Semper Gumby
Member since Dec 2021
379 posts
Posted on 6/6/23 at 12:40 pm to
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TRUMP is your nominee, accept it!


You’re really ok with losing to Biden again???

I’m not.
Posted by tivey6301
Member since Jul 2011
2001 posts
Posted on 6/6/23 at 12:43 pm to
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Are you suggesting Desantis as well???
You can vote for whom ever you wish. I'll be voting for Trump!
Posted by tivey6301
Member since Jul 2011
2001 posts
Posted on 6/6/23 at 12:47 pm to
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You’re really ok with losing to Biden again???
Since you can obviously tell the future, mind giving me the powerball numbers for this week? Thanks in advance.
Posted by oldskule
Down South
Member since Mar 2016
17288 posts
Posted on 6/6/23 at 12:47 pm to
TRUMP did not lose to Biden....he lost to the COVID debacle which resulted in millions of mail-in fraudulent votes.

DEMs are vicious competitors and will do anything to stay in power....and the presidential election is decided by less than 300,000 votes in only 6 swing states, super easy for cheaters to cheat.

It's not the candidate, it is the fraudulent voting system!

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