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re: Planted summer plots today

Posted on 6/5/23 at 8:33 am to
Posted by turkish
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Posted on 6/5/23 at 8:33 am to
With all the fab shops in S LA, you should take the Rodale Institute’s roller crimper plans and get some quotes to have one built for you. Would be interesting how that compares to the hyper-marketed Goliath.
This post was edited on 6/5/23 at 8:42 am
Posted by Semper Gumby
Member since Dec 2021
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Posted on 6/5/23 at 8:42 am to
It’s the 507.

The crimper was built at Industrial Pump Service in Clinton, LA. I think we paid $1500 to have it built. I did have the center pipe given to me. It’s a beast.

We’ve always planted a mixture.
Clover/wheat/oats in the fall
Vetch, sorghum I’m the summer, but this year we’re trying vetch/buckwheat.
This post was edited on 6/5/23 at 8:47 am
Posted by The Levee
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Posted on 6/5/23 at 8:54 am to
Nice, I’m using the same Fall mix and if it makes you feel good, the prescription came from Jimmy Stafford who is pretty fricking smart at wildlife biology in this area (LA and Southern Mississippi)

Summer mix is mostly Millet and a little clay pea with sunflower.
Posted by The Levee
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Posted on 6/5/23 at 3:37 pm to
Still waiting on rain in case y’all were wondering.
Posted by Ol boy
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Posted on 6/5/23 at 3:45 pm to
quote:

Still waiting on rain in case y’all were wondering.

Wash your truck or go spray some roundup!!
Posted by The Levee
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Posted on 6/5/23 at 4:27 pm to
Lol
Posted by Shabath227
Member since Jan 2022
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Posted on 6/5/23 at 5:44 pm to
I listened to a podcast a few years back (May have been MSU deer lab) and they were talking about the importance of having a heavy mix/variety of seed in your planting.

They said that anything with 7 varieties or more, the plants cohabited and fed each other (naturally produced fertilizer). 6 or less didn’t produce the same results. That sounds a lot like the way The Lord does it in nature.

No one fertilizes nature and it sure seems to flourish.

Now my foodplots, I’m still learning on those. I think I need a roller crimper.

My old field settings: yes, they are lush, soft and flourishing. Deer and Turkey all in them eating every day.
Posted by The Levee
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Posted on 6/5/23 at 7:30 pm to
It rained heavy on every square inch of Wilkinson county except our property and the outlook for the week took a nosedive to sunny and hot.

Lovely.
Posted by jimjackandjose
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 6/5/23 at 10:20 pm to
Where are yall getting vetch? Everywhere I have looked is sold out


Anyone try alfalfa?
Posted by The Levee
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Posted on 6/5/23 at 10:50 pm to
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Where are yall getting vetch? Everywhere I have looked is sold out



I didn’t look for it this year.

Never planted alfalfa but after some research, it doesn’t have a root system as good as some other summer planting options. So most folks stay away from it.
This post was edited on 6/6/23 at 6:59 am
Posted by Da Hammer
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Posted on 6/6/23 at 6:53 am to
We managed to get about 20 minutes of rain yesterday in northern Claiborne Co. but we sure needed more. Seemed like everything parted and went around us.

We got our stuff planted a few weeks before you and it's all up but we need more rain for sure.

Vetch was hard to find this year but we got it early at Claiborne Co. Co-Op, only thing harder to get this year was clearfield sunflowers.
Posted by The Levee
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Posted on 6/6/23 at 7:05 am to
Y’all should look at greencover.com

These blends look legit and ready to go in the ground.
Posted by Semper Gumby
Member since Dec 2021
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Posted on 6/6/23 at 8:28 am to
Got our vetch from tri-parish co-op in Slaughter.
Posted by Outdoorreb
Member since Oct 2019
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Posted on 6/6/23 at 8:59 am to
It seemed pretty hard to get vetch this year. I had 20 acres booked in February, and still took a while to get mine. Hell, I have only planted 1 acre so far. Hopefully I’ll get the rest done this week.

Whoever asked about alfalfa, I did it once. It did ok the first year and would have been fine if you planted it every year, but it is high. Insects and heat aren’t its friend.
*edit to say “re-seed” the alfalfa. Treat like clover and just “re-seed” every year.
This post was edited on 6/6/23 at 9:16 am
Posted by Outdoorreb
Member since Oct 2019
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Posted on 6/6/23 at 9:10 am to
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greencover


Why are you using them instead of a local place where you can build your own blend and cheaper, more than likely?
This fall I’ll have a blend @200lb/A of 11 different varieties for $101/A (no fertilizer). That is based on last years seed prices, and I am hearing seed will probably be cheaper.
Posted by Shabath227
Member since Jan 2022
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Posted on 6/6/23 at 9:45 am to
Stratton seed out of Arkansas has great blend varieties and prices are tough to beat.
Posted by Da Hammer
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Posted on 6/6/23 at 10:31 am to
Thanks for the tip. In the summer we don’t really blend per se. I have a drill and we drill soybeans and vetch at the same time in same fields. Then we plant corn and milo in their own fields and same with sunflowers. Then we also plant some only vetch fields. In the fall we use a mix in the drill in large seed box and plant turnips behind it in small seed box.
Posted by The Levee
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Posted on 6/6/23 at 12:58 pm to
quote:

Why are you using them instead of a local place where you can build your own blend and cheaper, more than likely? This fall I’ll have a blend @200lb/A of 11 different varieties for $101/A (no fertilizer). That is based on last years seed prices, and I am hearing seed will probably be cheaper.


Good question,

The short answer is that they are better seeds with multiple treatments. Higher germination rates etc.
Posted by The Levee
Bat Country
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 6/6/23 at 1:03 pm to
quote:

Thanks for the tip. In the summer we don’t really blend per se. I have a drill and we drill soybeans and vetch at the same time in same fields. Then we plant corn and milo in their own fields and same with sunflowers. Then we also plant some only vetch fields. In the fall we use a mix in the drill in large seed box and plant turnips behind it in small seed box.



Very nice! You just want to make sure you’ve got good cover crops to protect your legumes and maybe even let them crawl up the stalks. It’s also important to get some plants in there to cover to snuff out weeds. Even a plot with only 5% weeds can reduce your total biomass by 50%. You can use special blends like the Release Blends from GreenCover to do this without much effort and thought.

Lastly, look into browntop millet if you’re in south Mississippi. It could grow on the surface of the sun, provides great cover crop, has a great root system, and provides the same type stalk as corn or sunflower while providing the same seeds later on that will afford you a quality dove hunt.
Posted by Outdoorreb
Member since Oct 2019
2570 posts
Posted on 6/6/23 at 3:39 pm to
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Never planted alfalfa but after some research, it doesn’t have a root system as good as some other summer planting options. So most folks stay away from it.


Where are you getting all of your information regarding this “regen planting” from? I like where you are headed and I am headed that way myself, but it seems like we are at completely opposite ends of the spectrum.

You could be right about everything, but I would like to see what you are referencing so I can get on the right page if I am not.

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