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NEW: Current average of major polls for R nomination and current betting odds

Posted on 6/1/23 at 6:47 am
Posted by jbdawgs03
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Posted on 6/1/23 at 6:47 am
538 GOP Primary Polling Average

Trump — 54.3% (+33.4)
DeSantis — 20.9%
Pence — 5.4%
Haley — 4.6%
Ramaswamy — 3.6%
T. Scott — 2%

@Polymarket
odds: who will win the U.S. 2024 Republican presidential nomination?

Donald Trump — 69%
Ron DeSantis — 25%

R nomination - betting odds
This post was edited on 6/1/23 at 6:49 am
Posted by loogaroo
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Posted on 6/1/23 at 6:50 am to
No one consistently polling at or above 50% has ever lost the primary.
Posted by Solo Cam
Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 6/1/23 at 6:51 am to
Ron would have to do something extraordinary on the debate stage to catch up and I bet trump doesn't even show up with that kind of lead.

What was the big change from the primaries to now? Maybe I'm wrong but I thought Desantis had like a 10 point lead over trump then.

Only real notable things have been Alvin Braggs charges.
Posted by jbdawgs03
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Posted on 6/1/23 at 6:56 am to
January saw Desantis with a three to five point lead in some of the major polls. From that point on Trump has surged. You’re right though about Bragg being the only real major event to occur during that time period. I guess you could count the CNN town hall as another boost for Trump as well though
Posted by the808bass
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Posted on 6/1/23 at 7:08 am to
Lol
Posted by Solo Cam
Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 6/1/23 at 7:14 am to
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I guess you could count the CNN town hall as another boost for Trump as well though
Good point, I thought trump had taken a the lead by then but that for sure helped him
Posted by mylsuhat
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Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 6/1/23 at 7:22 am to
quote:

Ron would have to do something extraordinary on the debate stage to catch up and I bet trump doesn't even show up with that kind of lead.

All he has to do is sit back and let Trump destroy himself
Posted by PorkSammich
North FL
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Posted on 6/1/23 at 7:31 am to
For reference Trump’s odds were at 1% in June of 2015.
Posted by POTUS2024
Member since Nov 2022
11398 posts
Posted on 6/1/23 at 7:32 am to
Is another installment in the series: Daily Dose of Hubris?
Posted by 94LSU
Member since May 2023
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Posted on 6/1/23 at 7:33 am to
quote:

No one consistently polling at or above 50% has ever lost the primary.


A year away from the primaries? You guys turn off more and more Trump voters every day.
Posted by rmnldr
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Posted on 6/1/23 at 7:34 am to
Posted by llfshoals
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Posted on 6/1/23 at 7:45 am to
I’ve become firmly convinced that over the years people who get paid to conduct polls are simply too worthless at any other job to do it.

Is DeSantis a better candidate than Trump? It’s pretty hard to argue that he isn’t.

Trump did a much better job as President than anyone since Reagan. Sadly that’s simply because every President since then has been shite and easy to look better by comparison.
Posted by jbdawgs03
Athens
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Posted on 6/1/23 at 7:52 am to
And Trump didn’t have the Murdoch / Ryan apparatus pushing him in 2015
Posted by jbdawgs03
Athens
Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 6/1/23 at 7:54 am to
quote:

You guys turn off more Trump voters every day

Anonymous message board posters impact who you might vote for? Useful idiot.
Posted by FATBOY TIGER
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Posted on 6/1/23 at 7:55 am to
Easy money
Posted by jbdawgs03
Athens
Member since Oct 2017
9679 posts
Posted on 6/1/23 at 7:56 am to
You’ll be okay. I think…
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 6/1/23 at 7:58 am to
quote:

Ron would have to do something extraordinary on the debate stage to catch up and I bet trump doesn't even show up with that kind of lead.



So we have 2 octagenarians now, in Trump and Biden, who won't debate?

Tell me again how 2024 is going to be "different"?
Posted by pankReb
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Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 6/1/23 at 7:59 am to
Well they’ve done some of the same things while in office…why not share campaign strategies?
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 6/1/23 at 8:01 am to
quote:

No one consistently polling at or above 50% has ever lost the primary.


Sounds like a stat you just made up
Posted by aggressor
Austin, TX
Member since Sep 2011
8714 posts
Posted on 6/1/23 at 8:12 am to
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No one consistently polling at or above 50% has ever lost the primary.


That's true of incumbents in Statewide elections. Presidential elections are completely different. Trump has 100% Name ID and a lot of people know very little about DeSantis. So many variables involved that make rules like that irrelevant.

Trump may win but it isn't because he is polling well right now.
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