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re: Street preacher threatened with jail time after citing Bible verses against LGBTQ
Posted on 5/10/23 at 11:37 am to dallastigers
Posted on 5/10/23 at 11:37 am to dallastigers
quote:I'm sure if your wife or daughter were receiving messages wishing death towards them you would tell them that they're just being irrational. That lunatic that has multiple times singled you out to wish death on you, you just need to get over that, there's no chance he'll actually do anything bad to you, right?
Someone’s irrational feelings and hypotheticals shouldn’t cause others freedom of religion to prohibited or freedom of speech to be abridged by the govt.
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Posted on 5/10/23 at 11:39 am to HeadCoach
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OT triggered again.
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Keep clutching your pearls...
Head coach is like a broken record along with being not very self aware.
Posted on 5/10/23 at 11:53 am to shel311
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Someone’s irrational feelings and hypotheticals shouldn’t cause others freedom of religion to prohibited or freedom of speech to be abridged by the govt.
I'm sure if your wife or daughter were receiving messages wishing death towards them you would tell them that they're just being irrational. That lunatic that has multiple times singled you out to wish death on you, you just need to get over that, there's no chance he'll actually do anything bad to you, right?
With bible verses??? Do you want to make certain parts of the Bible illegal to speak or post?
Social media has ability to block and hide.
Regardless to your hypothetical are my kids and wife as part of their political group also mad because they got called out for lying in front of city council with a video contradicting their statements and getting their political group to threaten person who did it as well?
I think both sides are looking for attention, and a county judge should have not stepped into the middle of it.
Posted on 5/10/23 at 12:11 pm to dallastigers
quote:You don't get to hide behind a bible verse. Don't play dumb and pretend he meant something else when he said they should be drowned to death.
With bible verses???
quote:I want to make it where if you single out people multiple times and multiple times wish death on them, then for them to be able to protect themselves with a restraining order against that lunatic.
Do you want to make certain parts of the Bible illegal to speak or post?
quote:That's fine, the 2 women in question could be loons too, that doesn't mean it ok to do what the pastor did. And if the women's lunacy resulted in them harassing people, they should have been dealt with as well.
Regardless to your hypothetical are my kids and wife as part of their political group also mad because they got called out for lying in front of city council with a video contradicting their statements and getting their political group to threaten person who did it as well?
Posted on 5/10/23 at 12:13 pm to shel311
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So now you're gonna play dumb?
He is not playing.
Posted on 5/10/23 at 12:16 pm to Esquire
quote:That makes it even more scary, but I think you may be correct.
He is not playing.
Posted on 5/10/23 at 12:54 pm to Mike da Tigah
Yeah not everybody believes fairy tales bro
Posted on 5/10/23 at 12:58 pm to shel311
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You don't get to hide behind a bible verse. Don't play dumb and pretend he meant something else when he said they should be drowned to death.
He didn’t say that. Don’t play dumb and misquote verse.
Actually quoted bible verse in regards to drowning.
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whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in me to stumble, it would be better for him to have a heavy millstone hung around his neck, and to be drowned in the depth of the sea
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I want to make it where if you single out people multiple times and multiple times wish death on them, then for them to be able to protect themselves with a restraining order against that lunatic.
It was singling our leaders of political homosexual advocacy group. They weren’t just minding their own business and tribbing in private.
Are these the only 2 homosexuals in this city or is it more likely they put themselves out as public faces for their cause and political advocacy group which is why they are focus. One of guy’s social media posts was pointing out with a video their lie to city council about drag queens behavior around kids.
Outside of protecting them politically How is Restricting someone like this for 5 years protecting these lesbians and their political advocacy group? It’s become a bigger news event now than it was or would have been. Which again is probably what both sides wanted and judge should have refrained. It is also likely to incite followers from each side more than before.
I am not even 100% sure the guy lives in the city these lesbians claim to now live in fear. Social media has ability to block and hide and also report stuff. If restraining order had been more short term and temporary restriction on being close to them or on actual explicit threats or explicit incitement of violence and harassment beyond bible verses and political discourse I could better understand.
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That's fine, the 2 women in question could be loons too, that doesn't mean it ok to do what the pastor did. And if the women's lunacy resulted in them harassing people, they should have been dealt with as well.
Then why take their word on effects and the word of a cop who is also part of this same political advocacy group before placing a 5 year restraining order on this guy.
The guy shouldn’t have represented himself in first case, but with a judge willing to put a 5 year restraining order on him I doubt outcome would have been different.
This post was edited on 5/10/23 at 1:03 pm
Posted on 5/10/23 at 1:04 pm to Mike da Tigah
Socialist? Lol
You seem stable
You seem stable
Posted on 5/10/23 at 1:10 pm to Schutzhund
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Socialist? Lol
You seem stable
I believe the term used was marxist.
Anyway Just registered today and all 3 posts as of now are on this thread
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Schutzhund
Number of Posts: 3
Registered on: 5/10/2023
Edit: Made 4th post elsewhere when I was posting this, but the point still stands.
This post was edited on 5/10/23 at 1:14 pm
Posted on 5/10/23 at 1:15 pm to shel311
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His motive is he thinks gay people are worthy of death, so he harassed 2 people and said they should be drowned to death.
Have you ever read the Bible?
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You think the motive that Christianity says gay people are worthy of death is a valid motive to single out, harass 2 people, and say they should be drowned to death?
Link to me saying that.
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Go ahead and give me the theoretical motive that would make his actions justifiable
They are living in sin, and as such will be condemned to eternal death.
Posted on 5/10/23 at 1:16 pm to RogerTheShrubber
They are so easily manipulated. It’s amazing to see the crap they will accept and even advocate.
Posted on 5/10/23 at 1:55 pm to dallastigers
quote:Right, he quoted the bible verse to say they should be drowned, exactly. So yea, he said they should be drowned and wished death upon them, like I said.
He didn’t say that. Don’t play dumb and misquote verse.
Actually quoted bible verse in regards to drowning.
quote:And that gives him the right to harass and single them out and say they should be drowned to death? Yea, doesn't work like that.
It was singling our leaders of political homosexual advocacy group. They weren’t just minding their own business and tribbing in private.
quote:Are you saying the judge is lying and making up that the pastor made the multiple Facebook posts and they never happened, never were posted?
Then why take their word on effects and the word of a cop who is also part of this same political advocacy group before placing a 5 year restraining order on this guy.
Posted on 5/10/23 at 1:58 pm to jnethe1
quote:No but thankfully it has no relevance nor does it excuse harassing someone and stating they should be drowned to death.
Have you ever read the Bible?
quote:You keep saying he didn't wish death upon them, he just linked a bible verse that wished death upon them, so the most logical conclusion I can make is you think it's ok because of Christianity.
Link to me saying that.
quote:Good luck making that argument in a court of law, I'm sure a judge will take that under consideration. So yea, back to my point, give me the theoretical motive that would make his actions justifiable since that clearly wouldn't fly as a reasonable excuse from a legal perspectively. Question still stands.
They are living in sin, and as such will be condemned to eternal death.
Posted on 5/10/23 at 2:21 pm to shel311
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But they'd cry the loudest if it were their children or wives being harassed online
No one was being harassed here.
Posted on 5/10/23 at 2:22 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Illegal or incorrect?
Both. This is an infringement on speech disguised as a TRO.
Posted on 5/10/23 at 2:52 pm to imjustafatkid
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No one was being harassed here.
Posted on 5/10/23 at 5:40 pm to shel311
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Right, he quoted the bible verse to say they should be drowned, exactly. So yea, he said they should be drowned and wished death upon them, like I said.
Seriously??? Try actually reading the verse for once. It’s a warning and not an earthly one. This guy could be in the wrong with this as much as these 2 lesbians lying about drag queens and kids, but it’s not him or other Christians doing the judging. It’s also trying to put in terms the people would understand about how bad it will be. Drowning this way would actually be better. Do you wish to ban this part of Christian scripture?
I will include some additional versions for you.
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New International Version
“If anyone causes one of these little ones—those who believe in me—to stumble, it would be better for them to have a large millstone hung around their neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea.
New Living Translation
But if you cause one of these little ones who trusts in me to fall into sin, it would be better for you to have a large millstone tied around your neck and be drowned in the depths of the sea.
English Standard Version
but whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in me to sin, it would be better for him to have a great millstone fastened around his neck and to be drowned in the depth of the sea.
Berean Standard Bible
But if anyone causes one of these little ones who believe in Me to stumble, it would be better for him to have a large millstone hung around his neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea.
Berean Literal Bible
And whoever shall cause to stumble one of these of the little ones believing in Me, it is better for him that a heavy millstone should be hung around his neck, and he be sunk in the depth of the sea.
King James Bible
But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea.
New King James Version
“But whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in Me to sin, it would be better for him if a millstone were hung around his neck, and he were drowned in the depth of the sea.
New American Standard Bible
but whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in Me to sin, it is better for him that a heavy millstone be hung around his neck, and that he be drowned in the depths of the sea.
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It was singling our leaders of political homosexual advocacy group. They weren’t just minding their own business and tribbing in private.
And that gives him the right to harass and single them out and say they should be drowned to death? Yea, doesn't work like that.
Single them out - yes. Same as they do.
Posting stuff about their public stances, politics, and lie on drag queens - yes.
Those who go into political activism and put themselves in public eye need thicker skin. They can’t lie about sexual acts in front of kids, demonize Christians, get followers to threaten others, and then play victim when they get called out and associated with bible verses they don’t like and like you don’t understand.
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Then why take their word on effects and the word of a cop who is also part of this same political advocacy group before placing a 5 year restraining order on this guy.
Are you saying the judge is lying and making up that the pastor made the multiple Facebook posts and they never happened, never were posted?
First off my comment was in response to you saying - “ That's fine, the 2 women in question could be loons too, that doesn't mean it ok to do what the pastor did. And if the women's lunacy resulted in them harassing people, they should have been dealt with as well.”
Second - yes, judges can make stuff up or get stuff wrong. Cops especially ones affiliated with same group can as well.
I also added it was a mistake for this guy to defend himself especially when lesbians had an attorney volunteering for them and a connection to the cop that wrote up report. He wanted to put on a show. Maybe he even wanted to lose to make it more news worthy with appeals. I don’t know, but The judge shouldn’t have bit.
Posted on 5/10/23 at 6:13 pm to shel311
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They are living in sin, and as such will be condemned to eternal death.
Good luck making that argument in a court of law, I'm sure a judge will take that under consideration. So yea, back to my point, give me the theoretical motive that would make his actions justifiable since that clearly wouldn't fly as a reasonable excuse from a legal perspectively. Question still stands.
If eternal damnation is his religious belief what true harm does it cause to quote the Bible in a sermon or even on social media in reference to these two pushing their beliefs on others.
I guessing you didn’t go to LSU and walk through free speech alley and get told you were going to hell. Some of those guys were extremely inclusive with their damnations. I could be just be leaving a Bible study at the union and get judged.
Anyway these are not private people picked on for their sexuality, but leaders of political activist group pushing their own hate, sexual acts in front of kids, and their views on others online and in public forums like in front of the city council. They put themselves into the political ring and are just using this to stifle the one who pointed out their lies.
Again I think both sides are in it for attention, but I think the govt not prohibiting the free exercise of religion and not abridging freedom of speech are good arguments.
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"The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others. It does me no injury for my neighbor to say there are twenty gods or no god. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg." - Thomas Jefferson
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Have you ever read the Bible?
No but thankfully it has no relevance nor does it excuse harassing someone and stating they should be drowned to death.
So you are arguing what bible verses mean without actually reading them…
That’s a bold strategy.
This post was edited on 5/10/23 at 6:27 pm
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