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Benching with mild pectus excavatum

Posted on 1/31/23 at 10:48 am
Posted by Earnest_P
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Posted on 1/31/23 at 10:48 am
Has anyone dealt with this issue?

My kid has been working out awhile and has his squat to about 1.5 times body weight and deadlift to 1.8 or so, so I think lower body is progressing fine, but his bench is barely moving at all.

He’s not diagnosed with PE, but I think he does have a mild case of it. Any tips to help his bench progress? It seems to me he needs to do extra work to develop the pecs.
Is the prescription the same as for any kid with a weak bench? If so, what is that prescription?
Posted by DeafJam73
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Posted on 1/31/23 at 12:30 pm to
I had to google it. It’s probably a better question for a doctor. I’m leaning towards just keep training normally until issues arise, but I really don’t know.

It’s possible his bench is stagnant because of a technique issue, or he just needs to keep at it. Sometimes you just need to spend more time with lighter loads and progress slowly.
Posted by Earnest_P
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Posted on 1/31/23 at 1:02 pm to
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. It’s probably a better question for a doctor. I’m leaning towards just keep training normally until issues arise, but I really don’t know.


Pediatrician examined and said it’s nothing to worry about. More severe cases can cause trouble breathing.

quote:

It’s possible his bench is stagnant because of a technique issue

I think his technique is okay, he just has very little pectoral development.


quote:

Sometimes you just need to spend more time with lighter loads and progress slowly.

Yesterday when he failed a set I had him back and off and do a higher rep set.

I’ve never been one for accessory exercises, but I’m assuming he could be doing DB rows or something to help.
Posted by bamaguy17
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Posted on 1/31/23 at 1:07 pm to
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My kid has been working out awhile and has his squat to about 1.5 times body weight and deadlift to 1.8

How old is he? How much does he weigh? Bench can be very slow to progress, especially if they weigh like 120lbs
Posted by Earnest_P
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Posted on 1/31/23 at 1:32 pm to
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How old is he? How much does he weigh? Bench can be very slow to progress, especially if they weigh like 120lbs


14 and about that weight.
Posted by bamaguy17
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Posted on 1/31/23 at 2:04 pm to
Post his program. I'm sure there are some things we can tweak. I can guarantee he probably isn't doing enough pull/back work.


Posted by DeafJam73
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Posted on 1/31/23 at 2:21 pm to
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I think his technique is okay, he just has very little pectoral development


Bench press leans more towards triceps than chest. If he can get at least a few inches off his chest, it could be a tricep weakness. He’s also only 14. I don’t think that the numbers with the big matter at that age nearly as much as overall development and movement quality.
Posted by DeafJam73
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Posted on 1/31/23 at 2:23 pm to
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I’ve never been one for accessory exercises, but I’m assuming he could be doing DB rows or something to help.


Accessories help fill in the gaps that the major movements might not work enough. You don’t need a ton, but there are some basics that should be done.
Posted by Earnest_P
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Posted on 1/31/23 at 2:37 pm to
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He’s also only 14. I don’t think that the numbers with the big matter at that age nearly as much as overall development and movement quality


I agree. I’m asking about bench because he is pissed it’s not moving. I don’t care what he benches except how it relates to success in the sports he wants to play.

I made the comment about his pec development based on the eye test.
This post was edited on 1/31/23 at 2:38 pm
Posted by el Gaucho
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Posted on 1/31/23 at 2:57 pm to
It’s time to get him on the tren baw
Posted by Earnest_P
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Posted on 1/31/23 at 2:59 pm to
Can’t even get him to take his Creatine smdh
Posted by FieldEngineer
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Posted on 1/31/23 at 3:05 pm to
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Post his program.
Posted by bamaguy17
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Posted on 1/31/23 at 3:08 pm to
Honestly, all the advice you’re going to get will be helpful, but if he wants his benchpress to really go up, he’s going to have to eat and gain some weight.
Posted by Earnest_P
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Posted on 1/31/23 at 3:28 pm to
I keep telling him to eat.

He’s just doing a novice linear progression with squat, deadlift, bench, press.

Along with chin-ups kind of randomly
Posted by DeafJam73
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Posted on 1/31/23 at 3:30 pm to
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I don’t care what he benches except how it relates to success in the sports he wants to play.


You’re going to have to get it in his head that the goal is to be better for the sport. I know where his head is at, but you’re going to have to convince him otherwise. The strength gains will come with time.
Posted by el Gaucho
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Posted on 1/31/23 at 3:47 pm to
Get him on SS + GOMAD
Posted by bamaguy17
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Posted on 1/31/23 at 3:56 pm to
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Get him on SS + GOMAD

please don’t do gomad
Posted by Bonkers119
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Posted on 1/31/23 at 4:04 pm to
I have mild PE, and it's never really bothered me when I was benching.

I don't know if he's ever gotten a Haller Index measured for his, but mine is a 2.74, severe cases are usually 3.25 or higher.

I've been skinny most of my adult life, and my bench was pretty medicore at best. I've put on about 30 pounds in the last 4 years going from 155 to 185, and my bench has gone from 145 to 240 in that time.

It might just be a weight issue. I see he weighs 120, that's definitely it. He'll get a stronger bench when he puts on weight.
This post was edited on 1/31/23 at 4:06 pm
Posted by Earnest_P
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Posted on 1/31/23 at 4:14 pm to
Thanks for the post.

When I brought him to the pediatrician, he said it’s nothing to worry about and didn’t mention the haller index.

Do you feel the mild PE limited you in any other way? And any recommendations or things you wish you had done? Or was it no big deal.
This post was edited on 1/31/23 at 4:15 pm
Posted by Bonkers119
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Posted on 1/31/23 at 4:54 pm to
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When I brought him to the pediatrician, he said it’s nothing to worry about and didn’t mention the haller index.



That's not surprising. In my experience most physicians have no idea what PE really is. I only learned about the haller index when I was getting testing done to possibly have a surgery to correct it.

If you want to learn more about PE, I suggest visiting Pectus. It's a really informative website, and a great community for other people with PE.

I've never felt like PE limited me physically, did wresting in High School and for LSU's club team. Also ran 5k and 10ks post college. I do think even mild PE does impact lung capacity though, and I've noticed when I do run I typically get tired quicker than other people.

PE has affected me mentally for most of my life though, also one of the reasons I thought about having surgery for it. I never took my shirt off around people, and it was pretty much the first thing I told girls about before we ever got physical.

If he's worried about Pec Development, I would just reiterate to him that he's young and he's still developing. Once he puts on weight his pecs will develop. They'll never be like what he see in the movies or in advertisements, but he can still be happy with his body if he puts in the effort.
This post was edited on 1/31/23 at 4:56 pm
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