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NLI vs NIL

Posted on 1/12/23 at 3:46 pm
Posted by BigLSUNut
Prairieville, La.
Member since Oct 2007
1465 posts
Posted on 1/12/23 at 3:46 pm
This whole situation with the Florida QB got me to thinking.
NIL is technically not directly affiliated with the National Letter of Intent (NLI) which is binding.

I suppose the NLI makes no mention of the NIL in its language. If the NIL "clients" renege on their deal, it has no effect on the legally binding contract.

A university could force the kid to stay in the NLI, but would certainly have a locker room cancer on their hands.

Depending on how the NIL is structured, the only recourse for the player would be to sue the NIL client.

What a mess.
Posted by Todd515151
Shreveport, LA
Member since Dec 2004
715 posts
Posted on 1/12/23 at 3:48 pm to
I do not believe that this is anywhere close to correct. They changed the letter of intent rules to allow any player to transfer once without consequence.
Posted by BigLSUNut
Prairieville, La.
Member since Oct 2007
1465 posts
Posted on 1/12/23 at 3:49 pm to
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They changed the letter of intent rules to allow any player to transfer once without consequence.

Can you transfer before you ever practiced or played?


Posted by Cooterlane
Shreveport
Member since Sep 2022
1409 posts
Posted on 1/12/23 at 3:50 pm to
I heard there was a time where players played for the school they loved and grew up watching. Not sure if true.
Posted by LSUSkip
Central, LA
Member since Jul 2012
24717 posts
Posted on 1/12/23 at 3:54 pm to
He is not that guy. We talk about guys chasing bags, this guy is doing exactly that. He doesn't care about the school, he wants the money. Napier dodged a bullet, IMO. Let aTm have him.
Posted by Todd515151
Shreveport, LA
Member since Dec 2004
715 posts
Posted on 1/12/23 at 3:56 pm to
quote:

Can you transfer before you ever practiced or played?


Sure you can. Happens all the time. Under the old rules, you had to sit out a year. Now, you don't.
Posted by Salviati
Member since Apr 2006
7048 posts
Posted on 1/12/23 at 4:00 pm to
quote:

I heard there was a time where players played for the school they loved and grew up watching. Not sure if true.
I Know there was a time when conferences made less than a million dollars, let alone hundreds of millions of dollars, and head football coaches made less than six figures. I'm sure it's true.
Posted by BigLSUNut
Prairieville, La.
Member since Oct 2007
1465 posts
Posted on 1/12/23 at 4:07 pm to
quote:

Can you transfer before you ever practiced or played?


Sure you can. Happens all the time. Under the old rules, you had to sit out a year. Now, you don't.



Then why is he asking Florida for a release?
Posted by Srobi14
South Florida
Member since Aug 2014
3988 posts
Posted on 1/12/23 at 4:09 pm to
Sure he wont win 13 million in a lawsuit but I think UF is or at least should be more concerned about preserving their reputation. Lying to recruits and not letting them out of NLI isn't a long term model for success IMO.
Posted by geauxtigers33
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2014
13735 posts
Posted on 1/12/23 at 4:22 pm to
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A university could force the kid to stay in the NLI, but would certainly have a locker room cancer on their hands.


Once the NLI is signed there has to be a mutual separation until after the first year.

They can’t force him to be on the team for next year but they could make it to where he can’t play football for any school during the 2023 season. It’s not a good look and most schools just allow them to go just so they don’t have to deal with the hassle.
Posted by Basura Blanco
Member since Dec 2011
11253 posts
Posted on 1/12/23 at 4:54 pm to
quote:

Then why is he asking Florida for a release?


Because if he doesn't actually enroll and if he is released from his NLI he doesn't have to transfer. It would be like he was never there.
Posted by paulb52
Member since Dec 2019
7181 posts
Posted on 1/12/23 at 4:58 pm to
There was a time when players were actually students that went to class, as well. Now it’s minor league mercenaries.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
42138 posts
Posted on 1/12/23 at 5:02 pm to
quote:

I heard there was a time where players played for the school they loved and grew up watching. Not sure if true.



Odds are, you weren't alive when that was the bulk of the highest-level football players. There are still players who do that now, the numbers are dwindling, however.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
42138 posts
Posted on 1/12/23 at 5:05 pm to
quote:

There was a time when players were actually students that went to class, as well. Now it’s minor league mercenaries.


There are still some, and there were the ones you are talking about before I started paying attention to football. I know a guy who was a La Tech when Terry Bradshaw was there. He said the only way Terry would have been able to find his classes was if someone showed him where they were because he had never set foot in one of them.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
33943 posts
Posted on 1/12/23 at 5:13 pm to
quote:

I Know there was a time when conferences made less than a million dollars, let alone hundreds of millions of dollars, and head football coaches made less than six figures. I'm sure it's true.


The disconnect is in perception.

College football fans want to see college football as it was for the first 125 or so years of it's history...largely an academic extracurricular activity. However, beginning in the 70's and advancing further as the years went on, media companies, the conferences, and major conference schools realized CFB had a lucrative entertainment marketplace. The networks/conferences started to agree to ever increasing deals for the rights to broadcast the games. The schools began seeing the opportunity to generate revenue for licensing the use of their IP in commerce. They also realized fans would gladly pay ever increasing ticket prices for the opportunity to attend games. ALL of that beginning to generate millions, now into the billions in revenue. And the income was/is one sided. The schools/conferences kept all of the profits and the players got none. Yes, the players absolutely get some value for their services. But that has always been in the form of cost avoidance. The school doesn't change them tuition to attend. It doesn't charge them for food or housing. But still, none of the millions of dollars in profits is going into the player's pockets as income.

Once the college football marketplace started generating millions and millions in revenue, it stopped being an "amateur sport" and started to become a lucrative entertainment business. Not really any different than the NFL with the only difference being the players don't share in the revenue/profit.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
33943 posts
Posted on 1/12/23 at 5:20 pm to
quote:

I heard there was a time where players played for the school they loved and grew up watching. Not sure if true.


I suspect you have a job and you enjoy getting a paycheck, right? So would you continue to work for that employer for "the love of the company" if the company was generating millions in revenue/profits largely as a result of your efforts, but refusing to pay you a salary? Would the benefits of things like health insurance, perhaps a small apartment, a company car, etc be enough for your to forego a salary? Or would you still feel you were owed some of the revenue because you helped generate it for the company?
Posted by shaqtaw
Member since Oct 2009
6496 posts
Posted on 1/12/23 at 6:41 pm to
quote:

I suspect you have a job and you enjoy getting a paycheck, right? So would you continue to work for that employer for "the love of the company" if the company was generating millions in revenue/profits largely as a result of your efforts, but refusing to pay you a salary? Would the benefits of things like health insurance, perhaps a small apartment, a company car, etc be enough for your to forego a salary? Or would you still feel you were owed some of the revenue because you helped generate it for the company?


No one is forcing them to play. The school has nothing to do with the Nil money. That’s between the athlete and a private business.
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49043 posts
Posted on 1/13/23 at 6:57 am to
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I suppose the NLI makes no mention of the NIL in its language.


By rule it can’t. The opposite is true as well. NIL agreements cannot be contingent upon commitment/performance.

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