re: TSLA at $161, anybody biting?

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When you need to summon a car to go somewhere you use it like Uber or Lyft, but no driver cost and no need for tipping

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Yes. I think people are generally aware of this. And the part of this that I think would be great would be transportation options for the elderly able to walk but not safely drive. I would use it as an Uber replacement going to the airport as well.

So I see a market for that part and probably should value the FSD part of the company more than I do.

The question of buying and owning a car with FSD is a different thing in my opinion. That's a hard no. I don't want one if there's any chance of having a third party shut down or control my car.

Any modern car can be electronically turned off remotely if it has the GPS connectivity packages.

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GOS connectivity packages

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I hope I can still find a car without GPS built in next time I am buying

I don't understand why people are so unworried about this kind of thing. Not that any individual is at special risk of being abused. More that when that power becomes available for use against nearly everyone that it will inevitably be misused.

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nobody saw an issue with a vehicle manufacturer with a market cap hundreds of billions higher than the largest vehicle manufacturer in the world COMBINED?

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FIFY

I am holding a small amount waiting for a lower price to add

and with these high interest rates, loans on Tesla's $60k+ (that most people can't actually afford, but dumb gonna dumb) vehicles now have double+ per month payments than last year, i see that market cap shrinking more with lower sales

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I agree $50-75 looks like the bottom in the next six months or so

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If I were to load up now, I'd guarantee it within the next 2 weeks.

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Combine the market cap of every company in the Ford supply chain, every dealership, etc and then you may have a comparable number.

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There is a pretty huge issue with this logic.

You want to straight up add market cap to Tesla for vertical integration using other supply companies as a reference without adjusting for the fact those companies supply multiple companies

Might as well toss in apples market cap because they both use lithium batteries

Dude, you didn’t “fail to go into minutia”.

You straight up said to combine the market cap of every company involved with ford and their dealerships (which also ignores their service departments and used cars sales). Completely irrational