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Any “safe” hormones/peptides/etc…to help teenager maximize height?
Posted on 11/30/22 at 12:18 pm
Posted on 11/30/22 at 12:18 pm
My son is 14 and has always been short for his age, but he’s a really good athlete and, unfortunately, basketball is his favorite—and by far—his best sport. He’s good enough to play and start (I think he’s the team’s 2nd leading scorer) at this level, but I’m afraid his height won’t play once he gets to high school, and that will devastate him.
I know that seems shallow and could be a good life lesson, but I’m not just trying to protect him from high school sports disappointment. I’m more concerned about how being short will affect his adult life and overall confidence.
He’s 5’3” (ish) and certainly has time to hit a growth spurt, but he’s already in mid puberty, is starting to develop muscle mass, and his feet are damn near bigger than mine. I’m right at 6’, but I was about the same height I am now as I was at his age (I may have grown an inch in high school, but that’s about it). He’s got my athletic ability, but mostly takes after his mother physically (my daughter is a damn mini-me, weird how that works) and her dad (his paternal grandfather) is only about 5’5”. I’m not trying to find some miracle to get him to 6’2” or create an athlete in a lab or anything, but at least get him to 5’7” or 5’8” if possible.
And I know this may come off as me being shallow and a terrible parent, but let’s be honest, the world looks at and treats men differently when they’re that short and it, even if subconsciously, limits opportunities. And there may be nothing to do except instill as much confidence in him as I can and teach him how to handle and present himself no matter what and cross our fingers for a late growth spurt. But I would not be able to live with myself if there were something scientifically/medically to be done, and I didn’t exhaust all options available to at the very least be able to weigh risk/reward and make what we think is the best decision for his long-term future that has nothing to do with sports. And I know if there is such a thing out there, it would have to be done now. Anybody know of anything or where I can look?
I know that seems shallow and could be a good life lesson, but I’m not just trying to protect him from high school sports disappointment. I’m more concerned about how being short will affect his adult life and overall confidence.
He’s 5’3” (ish) and certainly has time to hit a growth spurt, but he’s already in mid puberty, is starting to develop muscle mass, and his feet are damn near bigger than mine. I’m right at 6’, but I was about the same height I am now as I was at his age (I may have grown an inch in high school, but that’s about it). He’s got my athletic ability, but mostly takes after his mother physically (my daughter is a damn mini-me, weird how that works) and her dad (his paternal grandfather) is only about 5’5”. I’m not trying to find some miracle to get him to 6’2” or create an athlete in a lab or anything, but at least get him to 5’7” or 5’8” if possible.
And I know this may come off as me being shallow and a terrible parent, but let’s be honest, the world looks at and treats men differently when they’re that short and it, even if subconsciously, limits opportunities. And there may be nothing to do except instill as much confidence in him as I can and teach him how to handle and present himself no matter what and cross our fingers for a late growth spurt. But I would not be able to live with myself if there were something scientifically/medically to be done, and I didn’t exhaust all options available to at the very least be able to weigh risk/reward and make what we think is the best decision for his long-term future that has nothing to do with sports. And I know if there is such a thing out there, it would have to be done now. Anybody know of anything or where I can look?
Posted on 11/30/22 at 12:22 pm to Hot Carl
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Any “safe” hormones/peptides/etc…to help teenager maximize height?
No. He's going to be the height he is going to be.
Posted on 11/30/22 at 12:36 pm to CoachChappy
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No. He's going to be the height he is going to be.
That’s very probably the case, but I know there are some things out there now. They may not be affordable or available, or the risk may just greatly outweigh the reward, but he’s my son, and I’m not just gonna accept that without doing due diligence.
Posted on 11/30/22 at 12:42 pm to CoachChappy
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No. He's going to be the height he is going to be.
this is incorrect, there are certainly safe hormones and doctors have been using HGH and aromotise inhibitors for over 2 decades to elevate gh and block estrogen from closing growth plates during peak height velocity age
Posted on 11/30/22 at 12:44 pm to Hot Carl
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My son is 14 and has always been short for his age, but he’s a really good athlete and, unfortunately, basketball is his favorite—and by far—his best sport. He’s good enough to play and start (I think he’s the team’s 2nd leading scorer) at this level, but I’m afraid his height won’t play once he gets to high school, and that will devastate him.
I know that seems shallow and could be a good life lesson, but I’m not just trying to protect him from high school sports disappointment. I’m more concerned about how being short will affect his adult life and overall confidence.
He’s 5’3” (ish) and certainly has time to hit a growth spurt, but he’s already in mid puberty, is starting to develop muscle mass, and his feet are damn near bigger than mine. I’m right at 6’, but I was about the same height I am now as I was at his age (I may have grown an inch in high school, but that’s about it). He’s got my athletic ability, but mostly takes after his mother physically (my daughter is a damn mini-me, weird how that works) and her dad (his paternal grandfather) is only about 5’5”. I’m not trying to find some miracle to get him to 6’2” or create an athlete in a lab or anything, but at least get him to 5’7” or 5’8” if possible.
And I know this may come off as me being shallow and a terrible parent, but let’s be honest, the world looks at and treats men differently when they’re that short and it, even if subconsciously, limits opportunities. And there may be nothing to do except instill as much confidence in him as I can and teach him how to handle and present himself no matter what and cross our fingers for a late growth spurt. But I would not be able to live with myself if there were something scientifically/medically to be done, and I didn’t exhaust all options available to at the very least be able to weigh risk/reward and make what we think is the best decision for his long-term future that has nothing to do with sports. And I know if there is such a thing out there, it would have to be done now. Anybody know of anything or where I can look?
1st you need to have blood test done and make sure his estrogen is on low end of the range and test on higher end. also have igf-1 checked to make sure he is producing gh. from there speak to your doctor, if he doesnt want to do anything i could possibly help with a reginment but i dont recommend goign that route for sure.
Posted on 11/30/22 at 1:17 pm to Hot Carl
by doctor i mean endocrologist or urologist that treats these things.
Posted on 11/30/22 at 7:16 pm to lsu777
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doctors have been using HGH and aromotise inhibitors for over 2 decades
Great! Pump the kid full of HGH at 13 so he may have a shot at playing PG for the JV basketball team.
Posted on 11/30/22 at 9:02 pm to CoachChappy
Did I say do that?
Some kids have high estrogen and it shuts off growth plates early or stunts growth. Some kids don’t produce enough gh like they should
Gh is not like taking test if done correctly with certain peptides and doesn’t cause negative feedback loop. If the kid has high estrogen that can cause all kinds of problems
The treatments have been around for decades and are legit medical practice
No offense but your getting all emotional about a legit treatment. If he wasn’t producing test would you be mad for the doctor giving him that?
And sorry but being short is a legit reason, nobody wants to be a short king. Sorry
Some kids have high estrogen and it shuts off growth plates early or stunts growth. Some kids don’t produce enough gh like they should
Gh is not like taking test if done correctly with certain peptides and doesn’t cause negative feedback loop. If the kid has high estrogen that can cause all kinds of problems
The treatments have been around for decades and are legit medical practice
No offense but your getting all emotional about a legit treatment. If he wasn’t producing test would you be mad for the doctor giving him that?
And sorry but being short is a legit reason, nobody wants to be a short king. Sorry
Posted on 12/1/22 at 10:32 am to lsu777
I think the issue is that we are talking about a child here, not an adult. The recommendation should have been to see a pediatric endocrinologist, to leave it to the experts. For an unqualified person to even suggest hormone treatment for kids appears over the line to me. If adults want to treat themselves based on your advice then that is their choice.
This post was edited on 12/1/22 at 10:39 am
Posted on 12/1/22 at 11:02 am to CoachChappy
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Great! Pump the kid full of HGH at 13 so he may have a shot at playing PG for the JV basketball team.
Bro wtf you’re like Hillary Clinton
I wish my parents would’ve given me stuff to make me grow a couple more inches. It’d be badass to be 6’4. There is no health problem worse than being short. Women will choose a 6 foot man that’s fresh out of the pen over a 5’8 ceo
Posted on 12/1/22 at 11:37 am to NewOrleansBlend
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The recommendation should have been to see a pediatric endocrinologist, to leave it to the experts
that is what i told him the first step should be, i just suggested what the treatment may end up being.
personally i wouldnt do it to my kid unless it was under doc supervision.
but i also dont want someone going to put there kid on steroids thinking that is gonna be the answer either.
Posted on 12/1/22 at 12:30 pm to lsu777
“Expert doctors” tell you to inject poison for a cold
Random people on the internet are the real medical experts
Random people on the internet are the real medical experts
Posted on 12/1/22 at 12:39 pm to el Gaucho
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“Expert doctors” tell you to inject poison for a cold
Random people on the internet are the real medical experts
to be fair, pediatric endocrologist and urologist arent normal doctors and are truely expert doctors.
i dont understand why people got mad at me though when i specifically said go see a doctor and get a referral, get blood work done.
i just said what the likely treatment is if that is truely the issue.
Posted on 12/1/22 at 12:44 pm to lsu777
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No offense but your getting all emotional about a legit treatment.
Im not getting emotional. I just want to give solid advise.
I can tell the OP is hurting. I just don't think this is a good idea. Let the kid grow. By all means, go see a doctor and have his hormones and everything checked to make sure he is healthy. However, considering giving a pubescent kid HGH, because you want him to be able to play high school basketball is crazy. There are other sports and activities out there.
Posted on 12/1/22 at 1:22 pm to CoachChappy
I feel you
I think a dude kid being taller is the greatest gift you could give him unless it made him go bald. That would suck so bad
I’m conflicted like my parents didn’t even get me braces and I had to buy them as an adult. It definitely caused self esteem issues and people always yell at you about not smiling and you can’t just learn to smile as an adult. But then like I wouldn’t want to spend a few grand on some kids teeth if he’s not even gonna appreciate it
I think a dude kid being taller is the greatest gift you could give him unless it made him go bald. That would suck so bad
I’m conflicted like my parents didn’t even get me braces and I had to buy them as an adult. It definitely caused self esteem issues and people always yell at you about not smiling and you can’t just learn to smile as an adult. But then like I wouldn’t want to spend a few grand on some kids teeth if he’s not even gonna appreciate it
Posted on 12/1/22 at 2:05 pm to CoachChappy
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because you want him to be able to play high school basketball is crazy
i agree that is a stupid reason
but giving the kid hgh get him to be taller is a legit medical procedure if he isnt producing. thats all i was saying. doctors have been doing it for decades
as far as emotional bullshite over being short...not gonna get into that.
Posted on 12/1/22 at 2:22 pm to lsu777
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nobody wants to be a short king. Sorry
Short king here checking in to tell 777 to frick off
I'm 5'-7" when the weather is just right. While I was always one of the shortest in my class growing up, I never really felt that short (other than the typical short jokes, which I still get to this day because me and all of my friends are assholes). But that's probably because I grew up around a bunch of other short cajuns/coonasses. Probably only had 3 or 4 guys in my class that was 6ft+. I've dated a number of girls in the past that were not considered short for our area; around 5'-5" or 5'-6", so that was never an issue. And playing sports, my height never impacted how well I played, it was my extremely average (AT BEST) athletic ability that hindered my athletic career.
With all that being said, 5'-3" is pretty damn short for a man to be, and I'm grateful I'm not shorter than I am.
Would I have been happy if my parents put me on hormones and got me to a solid 5'-9" when I was younger? Sure. But we were poor, and I doubt my life would be any better than it is if they had done that.
Posted on 12/1/22 at 2:23 pm to lsu777
If his kid ends up being like 5’8 instead of 6 foot then the blood is on his hands
Posted on 12/1/22 at 2:52 pm to Homey the Clown
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Short king here checking in to tell 777 to frick off
I'm 5'-7" when the weather is just right. While I was always one of the shortest in my class growing up, I never really felt that short (other than the typical short jokes, which I still get to this day because me and all of my friends are assholes). But that's probably because I grew up around a bunch of other short cajuns/coonasses. Probably only had 3 or 4 guys in my class that was 6ft+. I've dated a number of girls in the past that were not considered short for our area; around 5'-5" or 5'-6", so that was never an issue. And playing sports, my height never impacted how well I played, it was my extremely average (AT BEST) athletic ability that hindered my athletic career.
With all that being said, 5'-3" is pretty damn short for a man to be, and I'm grateful I'm not shorter than I am.
Would I have been happy if my parents put me on hormones and got me to a solid 5'-9" when I was younger? Sure. But we were poor, and I doubt my life would be any better than it is if they had done that.
im only 5'9. was 5'10 in 7th grade, tallest in the class and quit growing due to high estrogen and am first male in my family in 4 generations to not be atleast 6'4. dad is 6'6.
so yea im a short king too.
but i do understand how he feels. now the kid only getting to 5'10 prolly aint gonna do him much good in basketball
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