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A Peek Inside the FBI’s Unprecedented January 6 Geofence Dragnet
Posted on 11/30/22 at 9:11 am
Posted on 11/30/22 at 9:11 am
But, but, but 2000 Mules isn't that accurate, even if the American Stasi can use it to prosecute patriots and send them to a DC gulag.
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https://www.wired.com/story/fbi-google-geofence-warrant-january-6/
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https://www.wired.com/story/fbi-google-geofence-warrant-january-6/
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The FBI’s biggest-ever investigation included the biggest-ever haul of phones from controversial geofence warrants, court records show. A filing in the case of one of the January 6 suspects, David Rhine, shows that Google initially identified 5,723 devices as being in or near the US Capitol during the riot. Only around 900 people have so far been charged with offenses relating to the siege.
The filing suggests that dozens of phones that were in airplane mode during the riot, or otherwise out of cell service, were caught up in the trawl. Nor could users erase their digital trails later. In fact, 37 people who attempted to delete their location data following the attacks were singled out by the FBI for greater scrutiny.
Geofence search warrants are intended to locate anyone in a given area using digital services. Because Google’s Location History system is both powerful and widely used, the company is served about 10,000 geofence warrants in the US each year. Location History leverages GPS, Wi-Fi, and Bluetooth signals to pinpoint a phone within a few yards. Although the final location is still subject to some uncertainty, it is usually much more precise than triangulating signals from cell towers. Location History is turned off by default, but around a third of Google users switch it on, enabling services like real-time traffic prediction.
The geofence warrants served on Google shortly after the riot remained sealed. But lawyers for Rhine, a Washington man accused of various federal crimes on January 6, recently filed a motion to suppress the geofence evidence. The motion, which details the warrant’s process and scale, was first reported by journalist Marcy Wheeler on her blog, Emptywheel.
This post was edited on 11/30/22 at 11:33 am
Posted on 11/30/22 at 9:14 am to Auburn1968
Nah, big brother isn't watching... Why can't you accept that our benevolent overlords only have our best interest at heart?
Posted on 11/30/22 at 9:19 am to Auburn1968
Michael Tracey had a bunch of tweets yesterday about how scary this is.
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The suspect's criminal conduct is alleged to be that he walked into the Capitol at 2:50pm, took a selfie with his wife (who was also arrested), and then walked out at 3:00pm. These were the fruits of an extensive investigation by an agent in the FBI's "Joint Terrorism Task Force"
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Rebecca Fish -- Assistant Federal Public Defender in Tacoma, WA -- did an excellent, thorough job on this motion. Well worth reading
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Rather than establishing any basis for probable cause that subjects of the search had committed a crime, the government relied on hypothesis and conjecture that merely "equated presence at the Capitol with criminal activity" -- bizarrely invoking "the pandemic" in its reasoning
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The warrant was "fatally over-broad and devoid of particularity, and therefore impermissible under the Fourth Amendment." There was never any particularized probable cause cited by FBI -- making it certain that searches were conducted on people who committed no crime whatsoever
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Federal public defender convincingly argues that the FBI used an unprecedented "modern-day general warrant" to seize personal data of anyone who "could have been" in the approximate vicinity of the Capitol on Jan 6. "Defending democracy" by obliterating bedrock civil liberties
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Posted on 11/30/22 at 9:20 am to Auburn1968
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Google initially identified 5,723 devices as being in or near the US Capitol during the riot. Only around 900 people have so far been charged with offenses relating to the siege.
Who is Ray Epps?
Posted on 11/30/22 at 9:26 am to Auburn1968
unprecedented.
like the trumpian riot to keep congress and vp pence from counting the EV?
your bottom line: one of the people who may have been involved is trying to keep secret the phone evidence of his location.
Mkeh.
like the trumpian riot to keep congress and vp pence from counting the EV?
your bottom line: one of the people who may have been involved is trying to keep secret the phone evidence of his location.
Mkeh.
Posted on 11/30/22 at 9:29 am to Auburn1968
Anyone using a smartphone should understand that your location is being recorded. I work in the LEO software business. There is software available to LEO that aggregates location data from twitter, FB, etc. It also collects your friends that you retweet, share links with and connects all of those dots. Many many crimes today are solved using these methods. I can also be used for nefarious reasons.
Posted on 11/30/22 at 9:39 am to lsufan1971
Does turning off your phone do anything, or does that stuff still run? I have an ongoing debate with a co-worker on this. I think the tracking software runs, regardless if the phone is powered off or not.
Posted on 11/30/22 at 9:47 am to CelticDog
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unprecedented.
like the trumpian riot to keep congress and vp pence from counting the EV?
your bottom line: one of the people who may have been involved is trying to keep secret the phone evidence of his location.
Mkeh.
hold the frick on...you can hate trump, you can think Jan 6th was an attempt to overthrow the gov
but you can frick right off with thinking general warrents are a good thing. allowing this to go through opens the door for tons of abuse by both sides. Just because its being used by your side now doesnt mean it cant be used against you in the future.
how about...we follow the constitution and not allow this bullshite to begin with no matter which side is in power at the moment?!!
Posted on 11/30/22 at 9:48 am to Auburn1968
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Siege
No that would be Dems in 2018 for Kavenaugh lies
That would be storming a Portland federal building and setting it on fire with a mayor inside.
That would be what happened to target
The Capitol was single file inside. Most respectable and well mannered “siege” ever
Posted on 11/30/22 at 9:50 am to CelticDog
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unprecedented.
like the trumpian riot to keep congress and vp pence from counting the EV?
your bottom line: one of the people who may have been involved is trying to keep secret the phone evidence of his location.
Mkeh.
Otto your entire history is a lie. You're no hippie. Youre a statist.
Posted on 11/30/22 at 9:55 am to CelticDog
unprecedented
95% of bellweathers achieved reflecting pre election polling
Democrat candidate despite, almost NEVER drawing any crowd to speak of, gets 7 million more votes than any other candidate in history and 12 million votes more than Obama
with huge irregularities and abnormalities in 7 swing states, also AGAINST polling there
yes, its unprecedented
you pretending it is not makes you the target of free Americans whose civil rights have been stolen
unprecedented, justifiably
95% of bellweathers achieved reflecting pre election polling
Democrat candidate despite, almost NEVER drawing any crowd to speak of, gets 7 million more votes than any other candidate in history and 12 million votes more than Obama
with huge irregularities and abnormalities in 7 swing states, also AGAINST polling there
yes, its unprecedented
you pretending it is not makes you the target of free Americans whose civil rights have been stolen
unprecedented, justifiably
This post was edited on 11/30/22 at 9:59 am
Posted on 11/30/22 at 9:57 am to memphisplaya
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The Capitol was single file inside. Most respectable and well mannered “siege” ever
I want a “Insurrection Memorial Wall.l” it should be the biggest of all monuments. The ideal place for it is along the US-Mexican border. Make it 50 foot tall and extend the entire length of the border. The names can be as small as they need to be to make room for all who died during the initial bombardment and assault.
Posted on 11/30/22 at 10:01 am to Wortivi22
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I think the tracking software runs, regardless if the phone is powered off or not.
that much seems unlikely. software needs power.
run this by the tech board.
they eat sleep and dream about this stuff.
Posted on 11/30/22 at 10:06 am to lsu777
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thinking general warrents are a good thing.
I never posted or even said that.
one of the hallmarks of fanatic posters is attributing stuff to other people who actually know nothing about the topic.
Posted on 11/30/22 at 10:08 am to memphisplaya
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Dems in 2018 for Kavenaugh
It was a womenz bloodbath if I remember
Posted on 11/30/22 at 10:08 am to Auburn1968
If only they would have been so diligent for 9/11. Or the border.
But for THIS they bring their A+ game. They will leave no stone unturned.
This isn't about Trump. It is about his supporters.
But for THIS they bring their A+ game. They will leave no stone unturned.
This isn't about Trump. It is about his supporters.
Posted on 11/30/22 at 10:09 am to Ace Midnight
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This isn't about Trump. It is about his supporters.
Trump told you
Posted on 11/30/22 at 10:10 am to Ace Midnight
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This isn't about Trump. It is about his supporters.
Not just his supporters but citizens willing to stand up for their rights... They need to send a message and they really wanted this to be a bigger event so it would warrant more draconian measures...
Posted on 11/30/22 at 10:12 am to JJJimmyJimJames
Muh yard signs...muh rallies....muH BELLWETHERS!!!!!!
The only thing unprecedented was the number of voters trump turned against himself by being a clown.
The only thing unprecedented was the number of voters trump turned against himself by being a clown.
Posted on 11/30/22 at 10:33 am to Ace Midnight
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This isn't about Trump. It is about his supporters.
It is about tyranny.
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