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Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
263366 posts
Posted on 11/16/22 at 2:36 pm to
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Literally millions of people in this country are stuggling to eat.


Stop spending your welfare on Meth.

Posted by AnarchoDawg
Member since Nov 2022
35 posts
Posted on 11/16/22 at 2:38 pm to
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Commies hate voluntary exchanges.


LOLOL I'm an anarcho communist, so literally I believe everything should be voluntary associations

Capitalism is a system of private tyrannies owning the means of production. Owners make the important decisions about how/what should be made.

Socialism limits private ownership and institutes public control via the govt.

Communism is workers owning the means of production and making decisions together about how/what should be made.
Posted by AnarchoDawg
Member since Nov 2022
35 posts
Posted on 11/16/22 at 2:39 pm to
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Stop spending your welfare on Meth.


No
Posted by AnarchoDawg
Member since Nov 2022
35 posts
Posted on 11/16/22 at 2:40 pm to
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This post was edited on 11/16/22 at 2:41 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
263366 posts
Posted on 11/16/22 at 2:40 pm to
Then don't.

Stop nothing because you're too poor to eat

Meth does cure hunger pangs I've heard.
This post was edited on 11/16/22 at 2:46 pm
Posted by AnarchoDawg
Member since Nov 2022
35 posts
Posted on 11/16/22 at 2:40 pm to
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With what? Mental midgets like you certainly don't have anthing better... Maybe if you weren't a worthless idiot you'd get paid more.


the guillotine
Posted by FredBear
Georgia
Member since Aug 2017
15106 posts
Posted on 11/16/22 at 2:41 pm to
Don't feed this troll folks, it's an alter fishing for reactions
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
263366 posts
Posted on 11/16/22 at 2:42 pm to
Nah he's this retarded.

But I betcha he sure enjoys the fruits of Capitalism. He's probably on an iphone, living in a city
Posted by Abraham H Parnassis
Member since Jul 2020
2558 posts
Posted on 11/16/22 at 2:42 pm to
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Are you saying capitalism has been proven to 'work'? What exactly works about it?

1. It allows people to own their labor and the fruits of their labor.

2. It promotes innovation.

3. It makes things cheaper.

4. It allows more people to have access to goods.

I could keep going, but these are the biggies.
Posted by AnarchoDawg
Member since Nov 2022
35 posts
Posted on 11/16/22 at 2:46 pm to
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Let me guess, you're a Vaush guy, or a Hasan guy.
lol Vaush and Hasan suck. they are grifters

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I don't need to defend my position. I am not even debating, you're the one trying to convince us capitalism doesn't work. Don't ask for my position, you need to convince us why yours is correct!
Posted by Old Money
Member since Sep 2012
36764 posts
Posted on 11/16/22 at 2:48 pm to
Are you a tankie?
Posted by Eli Goldfinger
Member since Sep 2016
32785 posts
Posted on 11/16/22 at 2:49 pm to
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Number of Posts: 22 Registered on: 11/10/2022


Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112803 posts
Posted on 11/16/22 at 2:53 pm to
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Literally millions of people in this country are stuggling to eat.


Well, the only one I can think of was Karen Carpenter.
Posted by ThuperThumpin
Member since Dec 2013
7461 posts
Posted on 11/16/22 at 2:54 pm to
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Capitalism means you get paid less than you're worth and contribute - the rest goes to the bosses.


I dont have an issue with the promotion or incentivizing of worker co-ops. We need more of them to get data on their performance in the long run. I dont support making it law.
Posted by AnarchoDawg
Member since Nov 2022
35 posts
Posted on 11/16/22 at 2:55 pm to
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1. It allows people to own their labor and the fruits of their labor.

2. It promotes innovation.

3. It makes things cheaper.

4. It allows more people to have access to goods.


I appreciate an actual response!

1. That's what the video I posted is about. Capitalism does not allow people to keep the fruits of their labor. It allows the owner (boss) to pay you less than what you produced and keep the profits. It sells works on the idea that one day if you work harder enough, you can be the owner.

2. Nearly all important innovation of the last century was from research funded by the state. Microchips, computers generally, telecommunications satellites, etc.

3. Capitalism encourages companies to make the most they can by charging as much as possible, even if it's cheap to make. Insulin is a great example. It's almost 10x as expensive here as in other countries, why? Because we don't regulate prices on life saving medications and people are forced to choose between paying ridiculous amounts or risk their health.

4. Capitalism rations goods based on wealth. Rich people have more access and poor people are quite limited.
This post was edited on 11/16/22 at 2:56 pm
Posted by ThuperThumpin
Member since Dec 2013
7461 posts
Posted on 11/16/22 at 2:56 pm to
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Are you a tankie?


He certainly sounds like one.
Posted by AnarchoDawg
Member since Nov 2022
35 posts
Posted on 11/16/22 at 2:57 pm to
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I dont have an issue with the promotion or incentivizing of worker co-ops. We need more of them to get data on their performance in the long run. I dont support making it law.



Agreed, worker co-ops are great. Not sure exactly what you mean by making it law, but I'm not advocating that.
This post was edited on 11/16/22 at 2:58 pm
Posted by AnarchoDawg
Member since Nov 2022
35 posts
Posted on 11/16/22 at 2:59 pm to
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Are you a tankie?


No, I'm an anti-state communist, an anarcho-communist, not in favor of states even existing in the long run.
Posted by ThuperThumpin
Member since Dec 2013
7461 posts
Posted on 11/16/22 at 3:00 pm to
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lol Vaush and Hasan suck. they are grifters



I kinda like Vaush. I enjoy his debates and rhetoric even if dont agree with him.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
263366 posts
Posted on 11/16/22 at 3:00 pm to
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Capitalism rations goods based on wealth.


Need, which leads to profit.

The biggest billionaire has done more for poor people than government.

Some people aren't strong enough or mature enough for voluntary changes.
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