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To those saying Brooks didn’t have possession

Posted on 11/6/22 at 1:40 pm
Posted by RaginSaint43
Member since Dec 2016
2006 posts
Posted on 11/6/22 at 1:40 pm
Let’s say Brooks recovers a fumble in the middle of the field and returns it for a big gain or TD. Upon review they notice his knee was down simultaneously with his grasping the ball. You know damn well he would’ve been called down there. No “football move” to prove possession, subjective nonsense required.

The call on the field was that LSU recovered the ball. It should have absolutely stood regardless of that rule, because in every other instance, that is possession
Posted by SUB
Member since Jan 2001
Member since Jan 2009
20957 posts
Posted on 11/6/22 at 1:41 pm to
I don’t understand the relevance of your hypothetical.
Posted by BoogerTiger
In the General’s Pear Orchard
Member since Dec 2021
50 posts
Posted on 11/6/22 at 1:42 pm to
Watch the replay on YouTube at .25 speed. It was the right call because Brooks never did secure it even though I thought otherwise last night.
Posted by vanillabear
Member since Jan 2015
80 posts
Posted on 11/6/22 at 1:43 pm to
I just don’t understand how that’s not possession if the A&M QB having a hand on top of ball was possession in the 7 OT game.
Posted by DellTronJon
Member since Feb 2010
1295 posts
Posted on 11/6/22 at 1:45 pm to
Somebody always has to drop a steamer on the party.
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
9583 posts
Posted on 11/6/22 at 1:54 pm to
quote:

Let’s say Brooks recovers a fumble in the middle of the field and returns it for a big gain or TD. Upon review they notice his knee was down simultaneously with his grasping the ball. You know damn well he would’ve been called down there. No “football move” to prove possession, subjective nonsense required.

Counter argument: Let’s say the exact play we saw happens in the middle of the field, but the Alabama player actually recovers it inbounds after it bobbles out of Brooks’ hands. Do you think they call that a recovery by LSU (e.g. they say Brooks had recovered and was down) or a recovery by Alabama?

Without getting into the actual letter of the rule again.. Based on all of the loose ball plays I’ve seen over the years, I don’t think they call it dead in this scenario even though Brooks has two hands on it and a knee down. I’ve just seen too many cases where it’s still considered a loose ball, regardless of whether the player’s knee is down, until someone actually tucks it.

That being said - yes, in your scenario I think we probably get screwed as well. Though a lot would depend on whether the ref blows the whistle, since at that point it’s dead and can’t be reviewed further.

Before someone asks me, I don’t think Kellen Mond should have been called down either.
Posted by landrywasbeast30
Member since Nov 2011
4904 posts
Posted on 11/6/22 at 2:05 pm to
There is a thread discussing this and you decide what you have to say is so important it needs its own thread to talk about what’s been said in another thread?
Posted by Scotcho Libre
Member since Jan 2016
767 posts
Posted on 11/6/22 at 2:10 pm to
Correct, Brooks recovered the ball, possessing it securely with two hands and his knee on the ground, thus ending the play before the TE ever touched the ball.
Posted by General_Sherman
Member since Oct 2022
257 posts
Posted on 11/6/22 at 2:13 pm to
It’s a stupid rule and should be revised but rules is rules

The worse call was the no tip
Posted by themunch
Earth. maybe
Member since Jan 2007
64752 posts
Posted on 11/6/22 at 2:39 pm to
The ruling was the man that fumbled went out of bounds and then while out of bounds touched the ball it was automatically a dead ball at that point.

That is some obscure bull sheet. Is there a reference to this ruling in their page book?
Posted by GetmorewithLes
UK Basketball Fan
Member since Jan 2011
19121 posts
Posted on 11/6/22 at 2:53 pm to
quote:

Let’s say Brooks recovers a fumble in the middle of the field and returns it for a big gain or TD. Upon review they notice his knee was down simultaneously with his grasping the ball. You know damn well he would’ve been called down there. No “football move” to prove possession, subjective nonsense required.


Kellen Mond says high!
Posted by BornAndRaised_LA
Springfield, VA
Member since Oct 2018
5253 posts
Posted on 11/6/22 at 3:46 pm to
The football rules regarding sidelines are somewhat dumb. My biggest issue is that balls clearly within the field of play can be made artificially out of bounds simply because a player that shouldn’t be off the field uses leaving the field of play to their advantage. It’s rewarding leaving the field.

Player taking advantage of bad sideline rules

Reminded me of NFL returners taking advantage of bad rules to gain advantage when balls aren’t going out of bounds but they manipulate an out of bounds penalty.
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