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Looks like BK is fixing my biggest complaints about recruiting under Miles and O
Posted on 11/4/22 at 11:15 am
Posted on 11/4/22 at 11:15 am
Both Miles and Orgeron wer \e great recruiters, but I always had the same two bitches about their recruiting classes:
First, neither recruited elite OL. Under both of those guys, we would have Top-5 or -10 recruiting classes with 6 DBs and 7 WRs, but weak OL. Also, while we got some name QBs (mostly in state), we never got the really ELITE national QBS. Kelly is fixing this. His first OL haul was pretty good with two freshman staring and playing at all-SEC levels. Looks like the second/third classes will be Top-5 AND will have great OL and great QB recruits. Fix #1.
Second, Miles and O did not really get the HUGE early commits for outlying years. Both of them did identify potentially great future recruits and sometimes got them. But they were not as productive as many elite recruiting teams with respect to the "2 to 3 years away but already identified as a 5 star" young men. Kelly seems to have the ball rolling for both present and future years. Fix #2.
All good signs for the future of LSU football.
First, neither recruited elite OL. Under both of those guys, we would have Top-5 or -10 recruiting classes with 6 DBs and 7 WRs, but weak OL. Also, while we got some name QBs (mostly in state), we never got the really ELITE national QBS. Kelly is fixing this. His first OL haul was pretty good with two freshman staring and playing at all-SEC levels. Looks like the second/third classes will be Top-5 AND will have great OL and great QB recruits. Fix #1.
Second, Miles and O did not really get the HUGE early commits for outlying years. Both of them did identify potentially great future recruits and sometimes got them. But they were not as productive as many elite recruiting teams with respect to the "2 to 3 years away but already identified as a 5 star" young men. Kelly seems to have the ball rolling for both present and future years. Fix #2.
All good signs for the future of LSU football.
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Posted on 11/4/22 at 11:20 am to Buda
I agree with this post, but you have to admit Kelly did get lucky with 2 great homegrown tackles in his first class. nonetheless, luck notwithstanding, he is doing a great job of recruiting the oline. this has always been our weakness. some years we were fortunate to have enough quality guys, but those years didn't seem to roll around often enough.
Posted on 11/4/22 at 11:33 am to Buda
Kelly always had really good OLs at ND. Skill positions left some to be desired, even if he did get a few good ones here and there like Chase Claypool and Miles Boykin. I'm not sure if it was him or Notre Dame's standards. After all OL are on average smarter and make better grades than skill guys so probably easier to get high end OL than skill players to ND. Could also be that the midwest is better known for OL recruits in general.
Might be another reason he came to LSU after seeing all the WRs and DBs we've put into the NFL. If he can continue to field solid OLs he's always had to complement the bounty of skill guys that Louisiana consistently puts out as well as having a decent pipeline in TX, it fills the missing ingredient that kept him from reaching the mountaintop at ND.
Might be another reason he came to LSU after seeing all the WRs and DBs we've put into the NFL. If he can continue to field solid OLs he's always had to complement the bounty of skill guys that Louisiana consistently puts out as well as having a decent pipeline in TX, it fills the missing ingredient that kept him from reaching the mountaintop at ND.
Posted on 11/4/22 at 11:34 am to Buda
quote:
His first OL haul was pretty good with two freshman staring and playing at all-SEC levels.
Only pretty good?
Posted on 11/4/22 at 11:39 am to Buda
I expected BK to improve OL recruitment, but I assumed he’d bring in some corn fed midwesterners. Interesting to see he(and Brad Davis) can get it done with Louisiana kids. Campbell and Jones already look like 2 future first rounders.
Posted on 11/4/22 at 12:18 pm to Buda
The Whitworth, Peterman, Wilkerson, Black, Johnson, Blackwell, Turners of the world make the world go round.
Posted on 11/4/22 at 12:30 pm to Buda
quote:
Orgeron wer \e great recruiters
O's recruiting abilities were vastly overrated.
Posted on 11/4/22 at 12:44 pm to Buda
quote:
Under both of those guys, we would have Top-5 or -10 recruiting classes with 6 DBs and 7 WRs, but weak OL.
This always puzzled me given Les being a former OL.
Posted on 11/4/22 at 1:31 pm to Buda
Don't start the Kelly parade too soon...Miles and O have National Championships..Say what you want about them but they won titles.
Posted on 11/4/22 at 3:07 pm to Buda
As 5 star QB Sayin picks Bama over lswho.
Posted on 11/4/22 at 3:20 pm to Buda
Did he recruit Campbell and Jones?
Posted on 11/4/22 at 4:44 pm to Buda
Seemed like Miles recruited star players and skill players very well but didn't necessarily fill needs. We always had elite recruits and recruiting ratings but in reality had glaring holes (QBs, LBs, OL, etc). We missed some big fish, but Les was always good to flip a few surprises on signing day. All the same can be said about O, minus the signing-day surprises.
Hope Kelly improves on that.
Hope Kelly improves on that.
Posted on 11/4/22 at 9:21 pm to Buda
Your criticism of Les is misplaced. It should be directed at his stupid scheme on offense, not OL talent. We seldom lacked for talent on OL under Les.
For example, you would be hard pressed to find a better run of LTs than what we had under Les:
Whitworth
Ciron
Barksdale
Faulk
La'el
Hawkins
Malone
For example, you would be hard pressed to find a better run of LTs than what we had under Les:
Whitworth
Ciron
Barksdale
Faulk
La'el
Hawkins
Malone
Posted on 11/4/22 at 9:43 pm to Buda
If one thing is fact les miles recruited good o line man!
Posted on 11/4/22 at 10:16 pm to Buda
Two downvotes on the OP. One from miles and one from O. Sounds about right.
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