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re: Why are USC QBs garbage in the NFL?
Posted on 9/23/22 at 11:18 am to lsutigers1992
Posted on 9/23/22 at 11:18 am to lsutigers1992
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Purdue spits out a quality QB almost about once a decade.
I don’t get your point.
In the years between Stabler and Hurts/Tua, Alabama had none. It’s not like they have been cranking out nfl quality QBs.
And none of them have proven much of anything yet.
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Posted on 9/23/22 at 11:33 am to Mingo Was His NameO
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All qbs are a roll of the dice. Hit rate on first round qbs is almost exactly 50/50
I disagree. It appears that way if you just look at the draft, but there's been a lot of completely shite QB's drafted first round due to one or more GM's falling in love with 'potential' while completely ignoring their career and current ability.
ETA: As said, in reality the USC qb's that have been drafted have done well. USC has had a shite ton of QB's since 2000 not work out to be anything either. In their heyday of recruiting the 2000s they had multiple 5*s on almost every one of those teams.
This post was edited on 9/23/22 at 11:36 am
Posted on 9/23/22 at 11:43 am to jvargas
Because they are from CA. Different mentality when it comes to football
Posted on 9/23/22 at 11:46 am to Mingo Was His NameO
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Hit rate on first round qbs is almost exactly 50/50
If that's true that's better than I thought.
Posted on 9/23/22 at 11:49 am to Nerd
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Because they are from CA. Different mentality when it comes to football
No idea what this means. They're Liberal with their passing?
Tom Brady came from Cali.
Aaron Rodgers
John Elway
Dan Fouts
Warren Moon
Jim Plunkett
Carson Palmer
This post was edited on 9/23/22 at 11:54 am
Posted on 9/23/22 at 12:36 pm to jvargas
How dare you talk about blake griffin's baby mama's ex like that
Posted on 9/23/22 at 12:41 pm to baldona
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I disagree
You can just look at it. If anything, it's less giving guys like Cousins, for examample, a grade of good.
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It appears that way if you just look at the draft, but there's been a lot of completely shite QB's drafted first round due to one or more GM's falling in love with 'potential' while completely ignoring their career and current ability.
This doesn't make any sense.
Posted on 9/23/22 at 12:46 pm to jvargas
Rob Johnson
Posted on 9/23/22 at 12:54 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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Rodney Pete was alright, made All-Pro and lasted 15 years in the League.
I don't think Pete was ever really a starter much less ever an All-Pro..
Posted on 9/23/22 at 1:23 pm to jvargas
Because they're all severely overhyped as Heisman candidates as soon as they sign their scholarship
Posted on 9/23/22 at 1:24 pm to TulaneFan
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That’s more success right there than a lot of schools IMO
It's woefully unproductive for 20 straight Heisman candidates
Posted on 9/23/22 at 1:30 pm to Glorious
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Because most QBs are garbage in the NFL
This is the right idea.
Realistically, only the top 10-15 QBs are what most people would consider “long term”. Everyone else is in the aforementioned “garbage” (not the term I’d use) category…and there’s a lot of churn in that group…so over, say, a 5 year span…it’s 10-15 “good” QBs and dozens of “garbage” QBs
Since USC has put so many QBs in the league in general, their performance is simply matching the league as a whole.
Posted on 9/23/22 at 4:06 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Has nothing to do with politics, and your examples are all old guys.
Posted on 9/23/22 at 4:23 pm to blowmeauburn
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Most big schools have overrated QBs cause they are surrounded by better talent at the college level.
Great talent always makes coaches, quarterbacks, and running backs look better.
I used to coach high school ball. One year we had 20+ seniors and went 12-1 and won the state championship. The next year we lost all those seniors, lost our three best returning players for the season by the third quarter of the first game, and limped to 4-6 running all the same schemes.
We just didn’t have the horses we had the previous year.
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I think that’s a large reason why mid tier school QBs tend to do better. They have to be better and make decisions quicker.
Probably more diamonds in the rough, too, at quarterback than maybe any other position because intangibles are so critical and that’s hard to quantify.
Posted on 9/23/22 at 4:36 pm to Nerd
Sure. Like Mater Dei and Bosco aren't always at the top of the rankings for best high school football team in the country.
And Josh Allen, Amon-Ra St. Brown, Davante Adams, and I could go on and on, don't have a football mentality.
And Josh Allen, Amon-Ra St. Brown, Davante Adams, and I could go on and on, don't have a football mentality.
Posted on 9/23/22 at 4:39 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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It appears that way if you just look at the draft, but there's been a lot of completely shite QB's drafted first round due to one or more GM's falling in love with 'potential' while completely ignoring their career and current ability.
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This doesn't make any sense.
I think he means that teams often overdraft QBs and reach on their picks out of desperation.
Guys like EJ Manual or the 2011 draft when Blaine Gabbert, Jake Locker, and Christian Ponder were all early first round picks.
None of those guys should have been drafted that early, and the overwhelming consensus didn’t view any of them as franchise QBs.
Posted on 9/23/22 at 4:46 pm to jvargas
Seems most NFL QBs aren't that good these days.
How many are actually really good? About 5?
How many are actually really good? About 5?
Posted on 9/23/22 at 4:50 pm to SDwhodat
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I could go on and on,
Keep going
Posted on 9/23/22 at 4:57 pm to RLDSC FAN
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what school is pumping out great QBs on a consistent basis?
I don’t know about great, but NC State has had a really good track record with QBs, considering the profile of the school.
Phillip Rivers
Russell Wilson
Jacoby Brisette
Mike Glennon (okay he sucks, but he’s a long stint I. The NFL)
Erik Kramer
Roman Gabriel
Seems like every 10 years or so, a solid QB comes through there.
Truth is, there is no school consistency pumping out great ones. It’s too random of a thing to happen.
Posted on 9/23/22 at 5:13 pm to jvargas
Most QBs are garbage in the NFL
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