No shite, every EV owner will plug in "if needed" but you moved the goalposts mightily here. It went from your friends will always charge when out and about if a charger is nearby to they'll only do it "if needed." Which is it?

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I have much more knowledge of the complete demand and infrastructure growth that will be needed for the shift to EVs

But yet you still think that 10% of people who get on the road daily are driving 250+ miles? I know that sounds like me being an a-hole but take that as an honest question because it's not linig up. If you have that knowledge, you know that 10% line is way overstated by a long shot.

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I said one place in BR had 6 charging at the same time. As the change to EVs occur, this will climb even higher. When you design a system, you have to design it for the potential demand; whether it's in use or not. If Rivian adds 3MVA worth of charging stations at one facility, we could see 2.5MVA at that location in the future. So, we eventually will have to upgrade everything back to the substation much sooner than later, and, possibly the transmission grid when additional demand grows.

I'm not arguing we won't need to add any chargers. I'm arguing we won't need 1 on every corner in every town, like gas stations. I say that because...we won't.

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Posted by LSUAlum2001

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Posted on 9/1/22 at 1:44 pm to shel311

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I'm not arguing we won't need to add any chargers. I'm arguing we won't need 1 on every corner in every town, like gas stations. I say that because...we won't.

There won't be, but potential 10MVA demand this year in EBRP is just the start in my area.

What's the limit? 25? 50? 100? These inner city networks will require significant upgrades if the trend continues.

More bitching about power bills, I assume.

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Posted by Chromdome35

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Member since Nov 2010

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Posted on 9/1/22 at 1:55 pm to shel311

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I'm not arguing we won't need to add any chargers. I'm arguing we won't need 1 on every corner in every town, like gas stations. I say that because...we won't.

Look at any main interstate today, they are packed with cars. I'm talking I30 between Dallas and Little Rock (not local traffic), not 75 between McKinney and Dallas (mainly local traffic). The travel centers exist to refuel those vehicles and sell some overpriced beef jerky. In an EV world, there is still going to be a very large demand for charging stations along our main travel routes and this is why places like Buc-ees are going to have to install a lot of superchargers to make it viable. Do you disagree with this?

The internets are full of pictures of lines of Tesla's waiting to recharge...here are a few.