re: Have we talked about the Pfizer Study showing 44% miscarriage rate Flg :Vaccine

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It’s 22 cases. People emphasizing 44% as the important statistic here are obviously doing so for a reason.

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That is an extremely small sample size.

Nonetheless, that percentage should have lead to some hard questions. It would seem as though it lead to a coverup (or attempted one) instead.

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Nonetheless, that percentage should have lead to some hard questions.

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Why, when you admit yourself…

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That is an extremely small sample size.

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Particularly when better studies with larger samples don’t replicate this result?

You didn’t reply to my question.

Why not?

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It’s 22 cases. People emphasizing 44% as the important statistic here are obviously doing so for a reason. How about the multitude of other studies with much larger sample sizes that refute these findings? No comment on those?

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-95% efficacy
-If you get the vaccine you won’t get infected
-Masks reduce the spread
-PCR tests are accurate
-Ivermectin is not effective & dangerous
-The “vaccine” stays on the muscle tissue

Stfu you feckless sheep.

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Link to the study?

Everything I’ve read has no significant difference to unvaccinated.

That’s with multiple trials.

I’m legitimately interested in the data.

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As someone who frequents a nursery and has several close OB/GYN friends and colleagues, 44% seems high.

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Anyone still defending vaccines is an idiot

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This.

And I just want to remind the pro-vaxxers....I told you so mf'ers!!! I've been against them since day one. I've been reporting the side effects I was seeing on here since the second doses were being administered. My dad died of COVID and no one of any age in my family is vaccinated. And HCQ and IVM work!!

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A 44% miscarriage rate would be headline news.

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Apparently not.

It wasn’t publicized by Pfizer, so...

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As someone who frequents a nursery and has several close OB/GYN friends and colleagues, 44% seems high.


The lack of logic & effected anecdotal evidence in this statement is comical.

You’ll make a fine doctor in today’s world of medicine.

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In his defense, he has been posting since he was in med school or longer. He has impressed me with his approach to medicine, patient care and as a person in general. I have no doubt he is a fine doctor and would welcome him into my practice without ever meeting him personally. I don't think he has an agenda here and is giving his personal observations just as I do.

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Y’all are two sides of the same coin. You want to make a strong implication of reproductive issues based on early data with a small sample size. They wanted to make a strong implication of efficacy based on a relatively small sample size with a low incidence of disease.

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You’re leaving out the minor detail of one side of that coin being used to force vaccinations on literally everyone while the other side of that coin is literally never discussed.

Why do you think that is?

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would welcome him into my practice without ever meeting him personally

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Sometimes I wish my current gig wasn’t so sweet for exactly that reason. We visited some family in Benton for the Fourth this year, and it was my wife’s first time crossing into Arkansas at all. We wound up in Table Rock Lake after for a couple of days. It’s beautiful country up there. But she won’t practice outside of a tertiary center, and I won’t practice in one. And an hour commute each way is way more palatable when you’re going to your old stomping grounds and practicing with your brother.


For what it’s worth, no one here is really recommending the vaccine. None of us have particularly negative experiences that we can attribute to it, either (short of an “I feel bad day” on subsequent dose). Rads in town has had a couple of weird things he sees and asks about vaccine status - the one case that comes to mind is a 25-35 with a case of optic neuritis. MRI didn’t look like MS. He called me and asked about that status, but I don’t regularly take it in my history when I don’t think it’s relevant. Turns out she neither knew she had COVID and had not been vaccinated, but I guess he has a few other odd findings that he wants to attribute to one or the other. There has been no clinically significant effect in the patient from whatever goofiness he saw, either. We’re a pretty close-knit group and hang out in the lounge most days to talk cases. I don’t think any of the docs vaccinated their kids. I know I don’t plan on vaccinating our 1 year old (my wife got upset about that until I pointed out how dumb the idea was).

Again, just a few cases here. But we are expecting another one (wife got COVID at something like 20WGA for the first one, got vaccinated after). I got vaccinated early on after we were sick (11/2020) and I’m pretty sure both kids are mine. One of my wife’s coworkers is expecting after vaccination and is chugging right along. Good friend of ours got vaccinated sometime in 2nd trimester and has a beautiful, healthy kid (actually had one with some delays prior to COVID). I haven’t run into anyone having difficulty conceiving (I don’t do OB but I get questions about it a lot) lately. The vast majority of the labor unit has matched Gs and Ps, and I haven’t seen a big bump in miscarriage in the last 6 months, year, two years.


It is sort of fun to feel like I’m back in “the Wild West” of not knowing exactly what to do and not really relying on any group to agree on what should be done. It’s a bit frustrating, too, when I hear and read all these horror stories and just am not seeing them. They’re totally believable and plausible (and hell, coming from you I’d pretty much treat that as gospel), but they’re just not coming through my door. There was about a 2-month period where I (and my whole group) feels like we saw poorer outcomes in the unvaccinated (more admits, longer stays, more deaths), but that didn’t last long if it was any more than an anecdotal “blip”, and there hasn’t been a discernible difference in the two groups in very nearly a year, it seems.