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re: Why don't we treat fatisoty like smoking?

Posted on 8/19/22 at 7:48 am to
Posted by Dawgwithnoname
NE Louisiana
Member since Dec 2019
4278 posts
Posted on 8/19/22 at 7:48 am to
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smoking has now become taboo (I'm a non-smoker(it's disgusting) so I have no skin in the game),


What do you have against freedom? If we're going to allow people to drink and potentially kill other people, why not let them smoke and potentially kill themselves?
This post was edited on 8/19/22 at 7:49 am
Posted by BR92
Member since Apr 2021
849 posts
Posted on 8/19/22 at 7:56 am to
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What do you have against freedom? If we're going to allow people to drink and potentially kill other people, why not let them smoke and potentially kill themselves?



People talk endlessly about freedom, but many feel threatened when they actually see someone who is free. After seeing that they can't wait to straighten them out for the greater good. Live and let live, you do you and I'll do me.
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
12054 posts
Posted on 8/19/22 at 8:04 am to
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What do you have against freedom? If we're going to allow people to drink and potentially kill other people, why not let them smoke and potentially kill themselves?


He’s pointing out that one is not treated like the other
Posted by Turf Taint
New Orleans
Member since Jun 2021
6010 posts
Posted on 8/19/22 at 8:20 am to
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What do you have against freedom?


To each their own

Until it negatively and significantly impacts me? (eg, Speed limits)

When rushed to ER for real emergency and rooms filled, medical staff stretched by patients health rooted in and plagued by diabetes, heart failure, high blood pressure, et al and all the complexities that come with the combinations of medicines and their side effects.

Not suggesting shaming or outlawing bad habits but am thinking positive nudges towards better health - tax breaks for health club membership, rewards for physical activities, health education, transparency and visibility to healthcare costs and linkage of unhealthy behaviors, etc.

20%!of people don’t need this - will be healthy most of the time

20% of people won’t change - will be unhealthy most of the time

60% of people are targets to positively nudge to better health

Posted by DawgCountry
Great State of GA
Member since Sep 2012
30571 posts
Posted on 8/19/22 at 8:23 am to
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What do you have against freedom?


Your freedoms stop when they impact other people (drunk driving, fattys driving up healthcare costs, etc )
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
116309 posts
Posted on 8/19/22 at 8:49 am to
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What do you have against freedom?


If the American taxpayer isn't paying their medical costs, I agree.

If they are, I think they should be forced to meet certain health thresholds about obesity.
Posted by chryso
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
11925 posts
Posted on 8/19/22 at 9:01 am to
The dirty little secret is that smokers and the obese die sooner so there is less money spent on them in long term care and maintenance.
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