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A Fret Question or others. Acoustic guitar tops.
Posted on 8/6/22 at 10:49 am
Posted on 8/6/22 at 10:49 am
I have a beautiful 1995 Taylor 810. The topwood is amazing!. I have never held a better looking piece of topwood. Lacing etc. or Cross Grain or Medullary Rays.
Here is my issue. I think the pieces are too thick. It can be a bit muddy. I know looking at soundhole edges is not an accurate picture as it has extra support. When I change strings and can reach down in it it "feels" thick. I do not have a caliper that can reach down into the bout of the guitar.
Just wondering if this is anything anyone has ever come across and if anything can be done about it? By a luthier... Not me. I love tinkering with guitars, but not this one and not that.
Is this a known issue with Taylors of that era?
Don't worry I am not taking a Dremel into the soundhole to remove some material.
Here is my issue. I think the pieces are too thick. It can be a bit muddy. I know looking at soundhole edges is not an accurate picture as it has extra support. When I change strings and can reach down in it it "feels" thick. I do not have a caliper that can reach down into the bout of the guitar.
Just wondering if this is anything anyone has ever come across and if anything can be done about it? By a luthier... Not me. I love tinkering with guitars, but not this one and not that.
Is this a known issue with Taylors of that era?
Don't worry I am not taking a Dremel into the soundhole to remove some material.
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Posted on 8/6/22 at 10:53 am to LSU alum wannabe
Replying to myself to add.
I've never taken it for a real setup. Maybe that is it or wrong strings for the guitar. If you were closer Fret and could fit me in you'd already have had it on your bench.
You need a van and a mobile service. Like a dog groomer. Big van shaped like a guitar body. Guitar groomer. Mobile guitar groomer. You're welcome for the new business model.
I've never taken it for a real setup. Maybe that is it or wrong strings for the guitar. If you were closer Fret and could fit me in you'd already have had it on your bench.
You need a van and a mobile service. Like a dog groomer. Big van shaped like a guitar body. Guitar groomer. Mobile guitar groomer. You're welcome for the new business model.
Posted on 8/6/22 at 3:57 pm to LSU alum wannabe
You don't like how it sounds?
Posted on 8/6/22 at 9:03 pm to auggie
Yes and no. Maybe I just have the wrong strings on it? I’ve played it and loved it and I’ve played it and “meh”.
My blue ridge sounds better sometimes. Lighter, and brighter, and louder.
My blue ridge sounds better sometimes. Lighter, and brighter, and louder.
Posted on 8/6/22 at 9:45 pm to LSU alum wannabe
Try some woodtone strings.
Posted on 8/6/22 at 11:36 pm to auggie
Try some woodtone strings.
Never heard of those?
Never heard of those?
Posted on 8/6/22 at 11:46 pm to auggie
quote:
Try some woodtone strings.
I got some of these recently, they're okay but turn green on me
To OP, if you feel the top is too thick, your only option really is to sell it and buy something that works better for you..
Posted on 8/6/22 at 11:54 pm to SidewalkTiger
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To OP, if you feel the top is too thick, your only option really is to sell it and buy something that works better for you..
He needs to trade it to me, for somethin I have layin around. I'm sure I have his dream guitar, with thin topwood.
Superthin even..
This post was edited on 8/7/22 at 5:41 am
Posted on 8/7/22 at 9:49 am to auggie
So you want to shave a soundboard thinner? LOL
First we remove the neck, then the bridge removed, the ribs and kerfling removed, the soundboard separated from the box, the soundboard planed, then the ribs reinstalled, a rosette installed, the bridge reinstalled, the soundboard reinstalled, the kerfling replaced, the neck reinstalled, and then a pro refin.
I feel safe in saying you won't cough up the $$$, so I ain't even going to quote the job. But you get bonus points for being the first person in over 35 years of working on guitars to even ask about a job even remotely similar to this haha.
I personally like the darker sounding Taylors more than their standard fare, but if you want to brighten it up, experiment with different string alloys. 1/100th of the cost of the modification you propose.
First we remove the neck, then the bridge removed, the ribs and kerfling removed, the soundboard separated from the box, the soundboard planed, then the ribs reinstalled, a rosette installed, the bridge reinstalled, the soundboard reinstalled, the kerfling replaced, the neck reinstalled, and then a pro refin.
I feel safe in saying you won't cough up the $$$, so I ain't even going to quote the job. But you get bonus points for being the first person in over 35 years of working on guitars to even ask about a job even remotely similar to this haha.
I personally like the darker sounding Taylors more than their standard fare, but if you want to brighten it up, experiment with different string alloys. 1/100th of the cost of the modification you propose.
Posted on 8/7/22 at 9:59 am to TheFretShack
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you want to shave a soundboard thinner? LOL
Now I’m starting to think strings are the way to go.
Or it can just be my half or whole step down guitar or pick any “dark” alternate tuning.
Posted on 8/7/22 at 10:01 am to TheFretShack
We explored the idea of a mobile Fret Shack on wheels that would tour to provide services across the Gulf South years ago. But I don't have enough time or energy to timely service what is in the repair shop, the pickup shop, and the custom guitar and bass shop on a daily basis as it stands. Plus it would take a substantial investment to create a mobile operation before it even pulled out my driveway. Price simple cargo vans you can stand up inside and work inside for starters.
People already ship us guitars and drive in their work from several states away. I bend over backwards to accommodate my out-of-staters to reduce their time and $$$ investment. I couldn't count how many Texas clients have received same day work-while-you-wait service. It's the best I can or will do.
People already ship us guitars and drive in their work from several states away. I bend over backwards to accommodate my out-of-staters to reduce their time and $$$ investment. I couldn't count how many Texas clients have received same day work-while-you-wait service. It's the best I can or will do.
Posted on 8/7/22 at 10:24 am to TheFretShack
Yeah. I guess if your heads down staring at your bench and winder 8-12 hours a day, you probably don't need more work.
Posted on 8/7/22 at 10:29 am to SidewalkTiger
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I got some of these recently, they're okay but turn green on me
Probably a one time trial for me too then. Elixir nanowebs turn green and the coating "frays" on me. After about a week. I can use and get longer results out of uncoated strings.
Posted on 8/7/22 at 11:06 am to LSU alum wannabe
This surely doesn’t help, but I have a guild that i got for Xmas in 1994 and it sounds so good right now that it’s hard to believe..
Posted on 8/7/22 at 11:52 am to Clint Torres
Hell yeah man. Like wine. They age. Take care of them and they never go “bad”.
I have played a birth year Guild d-55 (think I have the number right). 1973. Thing is awesome. 1970’s seemed to be Guilds decade to shine. Martin had a rough decade. Gibson? No idea.
Maybe mine never got played enough? Maybe my strings suck for that guitar?
I have played a birth year Guild d-55 (think I have the number right). 1973. Thing is awesome. 1970’s seemed to be Guilds decade to shine. Martin had a rough decade. Gibson? No idea.
Maybe mine never got played enough? Maybe my strings suck for that guitar?
Posted on 8/7/22 at 1:32 pm to LSU alum wannabe
quote:
Probably a one time trial for me too then. Elixir nanowebs turn green and the coating "frays" on me. After about a week. I can use and get longer results out of uncoated strings.
To be fair though, I have very sweaty hands and I've only tried one set.
I've experimented with several different strings types on my Martins and such but keep coming back to the standard D'addario coated strings.
When I previously had a Taylor though, I always ran Elixirs
Posted on 8/7/22 at 2:50 pm to SidewalkTiger
1970’s seemed to be Guilds decade to shine. Martin had a rough decade. Gibson? No idea.
Do some Googling on Norlin-era Gibson's "double X" soundboard bracing system in the 1970s. I have a Norlin-era Hummingbird that sounds incredible, but my soundboard is apparently the exception, not the rule. Because many guitar forum corksniffers, "experts," trolls and their Echoplexing lemming regurgitators bash the hell out of the double-Xes. On a good note, it keeps that era's vintage prices somewhat in check.
Do some Googling on Norlin-era Gibson's "double X" soundboard bracing system in the 1970s. I have a Norlin-era Hummingbird that sounds incredible, but my soundboard is apparently the exception, not the rule. Because many guitar forum corksniffers, "experts," trolls and their Echoplexing lemming regurgitators bash the hell out of the double-Xes. On a good note, it keeps that era's vintage prices somewhat in check.
Posted on 8/7/22 at 4:44 pm to TheFretShack
quote:
some Googling on Norlin-era Gibson's "double X" soundboard bracing system in the 1970s. I have a Norlin-era Hummingbird that sounds incredible
Damn it. That’s 3. It costs $$$ just talking to you.
In order of “need”.
1. Peavey Classic. Think the 30 makes the most sense. Or a Delta Blues
2. Benz amp.
3. 70’s Gibson.
Posted on 8/11/22 at 4:38 pm to LSU alum wannabe
Bump because Fret Shack is right.
Yanked off the strings. Which I love on 2 other guitars. Black Diamond “Sliver Line” strings. Replaced them with some cheaper phosphor bronze GHS strings.
Sounds great. I will have sore fingers by bedtime.
Yanked off the strings. Which I love on 2 other guitars. Black Diamond “Sliver Line” strings. Replaced them with some cheaper phosphor bronze GHS strings.
Sounds great. I will have sore fingers by bedtime.
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