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Reagonomics / Citizen's United
Posted on 8/2/22 at 12:55 pm
Posted on 8/2/22 at 12:55 pm
Edit - Unpopular post as expected. But the policies I'm opposing below are bread and butter of the establishment RINO wing of the GOP. Also to clarify I'm very pro wealth. But I don't think wealth can be brought to bear to change the rules and open up opportunities unavailable to the middle class and potential competition.
The right is undergoing a populist shift and at some point we'll need to come to terms with Reaganomics and Citizen's United. Both are contributors to the cultural rot that undermines working families.
Reaganomics / trickle down economics didn't work as intended in theory. We've rightly defended capitalism, however the super wealthy don't practice the form of capitalism we defend. Here's what we've gotten in return for our commitment to trickle down -
1. Gutting of the middle class & inability to raise a family on a father's income alone
2. Offshoring. These guys that the conservative middle class opposes tax hikes for don't flinch when they offshore your manufacturing job
3. Corrupt crony capitalism
4. The wealthy have moved on to supporting Democrats and have stirred up the white supremacy narrative & ESG
Citizen's United - this has put gasoline on the fire of corruption. The GOP is tone deaf to some middle class family working in a chemical plant in Lake Charles. They're beholden to big corporate and think tank donors. I challenge any conservative who thinks we got it right with Citizen's United to prove this is something the Founding Fathers would have supported in a constitutional republic.
Downvote away if you don't yet realize we've been had by the ultra wealthy and still want to support establishment GOP policies. And don't think for a minute I'm advocating any form of socialism rather than actually advocating for more pure free enterprise
The right is undergoing a populist shift and at some point we'll need to come to terms with Reaganomics and Citizen's United. Both are contributors to the cultural rot that undermines working families.
Reaganomics / trickle down economics didn't work as intended in theory. We've rightly defended capitalism, however the super wealthy don't practice the form of capitalism we defend. Here's what we've gotten in return for our commitment to trickle down -
1. Gutting of the middle class & inability to raise a family on a father's income alone
2. Offshoring. These guys that the conservative middle class opposes tax hikes for don't flinch when they offshore your manufacturing job
3. Corrupt crony capitalism
4. The wealthy have moved on to supporting Democrats and have stirred up the white supremacy narrative & ESG
Citizen's United - this has put gasoline on the fire of corruption. The GOP is tone deaf to some middle class family working in a chemical plant in Lake Charles. They're beholden to big corporate and think tank donors. I challenge any conservative who thinks we got it right with Citizen's United to prove this is something the Founding Fathers would have supported in a constitutional republic.
Downvote away if you don't yet realize we've been had by the ultra wealthy and still want to support establishment GOP policies. And don't think for a minute I'm advocating any form of socialism rather than actually advocating for more pure free enterprise
This post was edited on 8/2/22 at 2:06 pm
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Posted on 8/2/22 at 12:58 pm to Browncd81
RINO=Browncd81
Posted on 8/2/22 at 1:00 pm to Browncd81
quote:
trickle down economics
No such thing.
Posted on 8/2/22 at 1:00 pm to Browncd81
quote:
Corrupt crony capitalism
Our government has grown too large. Reduce the size of the budget by half and watch the private citizens and industry thrive.
Posted on 8/2/22 at 1:08 pm to Browncd81
Really? Trickle down economics ? You believe this is a Reagan thing? This is nothing more than a democrat expression of something that never was
Posted on 8/2/22 at 1:09 pm to Browncd81
Offshoring was a Clinton thing but you go one being you
Posted on 8/2/22 at 1:17 pm to MEd LSU
quote:
RINO=Browncd81
Actually the above are pure RINO establishment positions.
You think the establishment GOP or new Blake Masters types candidates benefit more from big corporate and think tank donations?
Posted on 8/2/22 at 1:19 pm to Browncd81
quote:You beef isn't with "Reaganomics" nor "Citizens United". Your problem is a corruptible Congress that has too much power over corporations.
Reaganomics / trickle down economics didn't work as intended in theory. We've rightly defended capitalism, however the super wealthy don't practice the form of capitalism we defend. Here's what we've gotten in return for our commitment to trickle down -
1. Gutting of the middle class & inability to raise a family on a father's income alone
2. Offshoring. These guys that the conservative middle class opposes tax hikes for don't flinch when they offshore your manufacturing job
3. Corrupt crony capitalism
4. The wealthy have moved on to supporting Democrats and have stirred up the white supremacy narrative & ESG
Citizen's United - this has put gasoline on the fire of corruption. The GOP is tone deaf to some middle class family working in a chemical plant in Lake Charles. They're beholden to big corporate and think tank donors. I challenge any conservative who thinks we got it right with Citizen's United to prove this is something the Founding Fathers would have supported in a constitutional republic.
If congress had no power, no one would be lining up to buy them.
Posted on 8/2/22 at 1:20 pm to Nosevens
quote:
Offshoring was a Clinton thing but you go one being you
Passing NAFTA sprung the initial leak in the dam.
Perot was right!
Posted on 8/2/22 at 1:20 pm to Nosevens
quote:It's just another "I'm a conservative republican, buuuuuuttttttt...." script.
Really? Trickle down economics ? You believe this is a Reagan thing?
Posted on 8/2/22 at 1:20 pm to Browncd81
quote:
Here's what we've gotten in return for our commitment to trickle down -
Trickle down economics isn’t responsible for our current socio-political rot. It’s absurd to pretend it has contributed to it at all.
quote:
Citizen's United.
So you think the government should be able to quell political speech around an election?
Dumb post of the day from you.
Posted on 8/2/22 at 1:21 pm to Nosevens
quote:
This is nothing more than a democrat expression of something that never was
The term was actually coined by the RINOiest of RINO Presidents we have ever had - GHWB.
Posted on 8/2/22 at 1:22 pm to Browncd81
quote:
The right is undergoing a populist shift
So fricking disgusting. Populism is the low information, high emotion political perspective.
Watching the right fall into populism is disheartening.
Posted on 8/2/22 at 1:22 pm to Browncd81
Nothing you listed was a function or result of Reagonomics.
Posted on 8/2/22 at 1:25 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Populism is an effective combatant to Marxism.
And American populism, as expressed through the Republican Party currently, avoids one of the major pitfalls of classical populism in that we have a Democratic Republic.
And American populism, as expressed through the Republican Party currently, avoids one of the major pitfalls of classical populism in that we have a Democratic Republic.
Posted on 8/2/22 at 1:27 pm to the808bass
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Trickle down economics isn’t responsible for our current socio-political rot. It’s absurd to pretend it has contributed to it at all.
Not fully. But loss of the middle class / single family earner has. I'm open to alternative explanations as to why wages have stagnated so bad. NAFTA was mentioned and I agree with that.
quote:
So you think the government should be able to quell political speech around an election?
Dumb post of the day from you.
Do you think Thomas Jefferson would support politicians being more beholden to Pfizer and Disney more than ordinary people? The premise behind Citizen's United is corporate personhood. To me that falls apart when you consider corporations have a very limited interest in what is at stake in an election. These days they are more interested in propping up ESG scores and pushing woke content
Posted on 8/2/22 at 1:27 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:Whenever you have a minority (wolves) in cultural favor, the party out of cultural favor (sheep) will always trend to populism. It's how they defend themselves.
Watching the right fall into populism is disheartening.
Posted on 8/2/22 at 1:29 pm to Browncd81
quote:Nope. Femimism started moving women out of the home before Reagan even ran for president.
Not fully. But loss of the middle class / single family earner has
quote:Nothing to do with CU. Literally, nothing. What part of the CU made bribery legal?
Do you think Thomas Jefferson would support politicians being more beholden to Pfizer and Disney more than ordinary people?
This post was edited on 8/2/22 at 1:31 pm
Posted on 8/2/22 at 1:31 pm to Browncd81
quote:
Do you think Thomas Jefferson would support politicians being more beholden to Pfizer and Disney more than ordinary people? The premise behind Citizen's United is corporate personhood.
So you think Thomas Jefferson would have voted for the Campaign Reform Act which prohibited any corporation, non-profit or union from making any political speech or electioneering within 30 days of a primary or 60 days of an election?
You seem blithely unaware of the actual Citizens United case.
Posted on 8/2/22 at 1:32 pm to Taxing Authority
quote:
You beef isn't with "Reaganomics" nor "Citizens United". Your problem is a corruptible Congress that has too much power over corporations.
If congress had no power, no one would be lining up to buy them.
It's a guarantee that government will be corrupt. Our FF's operated on that understanding.
Because they are bought, and because Citizen's United has made it so easy, corporations hold the power and the Congress stands in the middle as a thin veneer of legitimacy to make it appear we're a Jeffersonian Republic.
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