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Month Long Italy/Southern France Trip
Posted on 7/31/22 at 9:33 pm
Posted on 7/31/22 at 9:33 pm
Flying to Milan on Aug 29 and back home from Rome on Sep 29. The wife and I have been to Italy together back in 2017 but never France, together at least.
2017 Italy trip: Venice -> Vernazza -> Florence -> San Gigminiano -> Amalfi -> Capri -> Rome
Planning to go to Lake Como for the first two nights but after that is up in the air. Would like to do something new and venture into southern France for a week and a half or so, then head back to Italy and work our way to Tuscany and Florence and Rome with TBD stops.
Pile On... We will have a 10 month old with us this time.
All suggestions (mainly Tuscany and France wineries) would be greatly appreciated.
2017 Italy trip: Venice -> Vernazza -> Florence -> San Gigminiano -> Amalfi -> Capri -> Rome
Planning to go to Lake Como for the first two nights but after that is up in the air. Would like to do something new and venture into southern France for a week and a half or so, then head back to Italy and work our way to Tuscany and Florence and Rome with TBD stops.
Pile On... We will have a 10 month old with us this time.
All suggestions (mainly Tuscany and France wineries) would be greatly appreciated.
This post was edited on 7/31/22 at 9:35 pm
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Posted on 7/31/22 at 10:46 pm to METAL
Castello Banfi winery in Montalcino, which makes Brunello wine. If you don’t know what Brunello is, look it up. It’s nearby Siena which is “the jewel of Tuscany”
Cassis, France - just visit it- French/Mediterranean
Cassis, France - just visit it- French/Mediterranean
Posted on 7/31/22 at 10:57 pm to METAL
Varenna is really nice.
Posted on 7/31/22 at 11:26 pm to METAL
The Villa
This is a wonderful place in Tuscany. The regulars on here may be tired of my recommending it so often but this is part of our favorite vacation. You will need a rental car.
In southern France-
One place that we loved that was off the beaten path was Eze. A charming hill town with one pedestrian street going up the hill that leads to a park with dramatic views of the Mediterranean.
EDIT- Forget the villa I recommended above. I have just been informed that it has been sold and is being used as a private residence. I now have to throw my 2023 plans out the window. At least I have great memories of having stayed there twice.
This is a wonderful place in Tuscany. The regulars on here may be tired of my recommending it so often but this is part of our favorite vacation. You will need a rental car.
In southern France-
One place that we loved that was off the beaten path was Eze. A charming hill town with one pedestrian street going up the hill that leads to a park with dramatic views of the Mediterranean.
EDIT- Forget the villa I recommended above. I have just been informed that it has been sold and is being used as a private residence. I now have to throw my 2023 plans out the window. At least I have great memories of having stayed there twice.
This post was edited on 8/20/22 at 12:23 pm
Posted on 8/1/22 at 7:01 am to METAL
Tuscany
If you visit the enoteca in Greve and Montalcino you can taste all the Chianti Classico's and Brunello that you want. With a 10 month old an enoteca may be more comfortable with the little one. Don't worry though. I believe those two enoteca are the best in all of Italy.
Banfi is a big commercial vineyard. It's beautiful but just remember that like Barone Ricasoli it's a corporation. It's like visiting Robert Mondavi in Napa. Still, they make some great wines.
If you are doing any northern Italy then I'd suggest the area around Alba. Barolo and Barbaresco are made there and they are among the great wines of the world.
I love French wines but don't know enough to steer you towards vineyards.
ETA: Don't pay attention to the downvotes. The travel board has a serial downvoter or two for some reason. Well, I certainly have one for sure.
If you visit the enoteca in Greve and Montalcino you can taste all the Chianti Classico's and Brunello that you want. With a 10 month old an enoteca may be more comfortable with the little one. Don't worry though. I believe those two enoteca are the best in all of Italy.
Banfi is a big commercial vineyard. It's beautiful but just remember that like Barone Ricasoli it's a corporation. It's like visiting Robert Mondavi in Napa. Still, they make some great wines.
If you are doing any northern Italy then I'd suggest the area around Alba. Barolo and Barbaresco are made there and they are among the great wines of the world.
I love French wines but don't know enough to steer you towards vineyards.
ETA: Don't pay attention to the downvotes. The travel board has a serial downvoter or two for some reason. Well, I certainly have one for sure.
This post was edited on 8/1/22 at 7:02 am
Posted on 8/1/22 at 7:05 am to METAL
quote:
We will have a 10 month old with us this time
As a father, I don’t know how you are doing this. But respect the the hell out of it
Posted on 8/1/22 at 7:37 am to METAL
We're doing 2 weeks in France next year for our honeymoon. I think I'm near finalized on the itinerary but we're doing Nice, Saint Tropez, Avignon, Reims, and Paris. About 3 days at each location
Posted on 8/1/22 at 10:20 am to METAL
We've travelled in It and Fr a fair amount. Best experience in So. Fr was a multifamily reunion in Trémolat, Dordogne Valley. The river is great for canoe/kayak and many historical sites and parks, all well managed. Food and wine are outstanding. The region is famous for ducks, geese and truffles. Families with young teen kids stayed in farmhouse set up for tourists with a pool. There are many small hotels. The area is served by trail.
Also consider outside of Venice to the north and up into the Dolomite mountains...extensive vinyards and a more laid back tourist experience.
Also consider outside of Venice to the north and up into the Dolomite mountains...extensive vinyards and a more laid back tourist experience.
Posted on 8/1/22 at 11:37 am to Tree_Fall
Town in Provence to visit:
St Remy
Les Baux
L'Isle sur la Sorgue
Fontaine de Vacluse
Gordes
Avignon
Chateauneuf de Pape wine country
Pont du Gard (Roman aqueduct)
I'm sure others can add more Provencal towns.
St Remy
Les Baux
L'Isle sur la Sorgue
Fontaine de Vacluse
Gordes
Avignon
Chateauneuf de Pape wine country
Pont du Gard (Roman aqueduct)
I'm sure others can add more Provencal towns.
Posted on 8/1/22 at 2:53 pm to Alyosha
Intimately familiar with brunello. I had a whole bunch of it that got ruined in Ida. Bought it in 2017 when it was 5/6 years old.
Thanks for the suggestion.
Thanks for the suggestion.
Posted on 8/1/22 at 3:01 pm to METAL
quote:
n southern France-
One place that we loved that was off the beaten path was Eze. A charming hill town with one pedestrian street going up the hill that leads to a park with dramatic views of the Mediterranean.
Seconding Eze, worth a little side trip. You don't mention whether you are driving or taking trains...that will make a big diff in planning itineraries.
Posted on 8/1/22 at 3:36 pm to geauxpurple
All booked up. That’s right in my wheel house though. Thanks.
Posted on 8/1/22 at 3:38 pm to VABuckeye
Much appreciated. I needed out hard last time on Tuscany so want to contunue with it this trip.
I know nothing about French wine as well.
I know nothing about French wine as well.
Posted on 8/1/22 at 3:39 pm to tigerbank24
Im dreading the flight and first few days with the sleep schedule. Chilling in Como should help alleviate that.
Posted on 8/1/22 at 3:41 pm to Tree_Fall
I would but we did Venice last time. I’d like to do it again with the Dolomites but might not be the best with the little one.
Planning on renting a car FYI
Planning on renting a car FYI
Posted on 8/1/22 at 3:42 pm to hungryone2
Driving for the most part so we can do what we want when we want. 300 km/h train is killer though so we will likely utilize that between Florence and Rome. Etc.
Posted on 8/1/22 at 3:49 pm to METAL
quote:
I had a whole bunch of it that got ruined in Ida. Bought it in 2017 when it was 5/6 years old.
Then you definitely need to go to Enoteca Fortezza in Montalcino.
Posted on 8/1/22 at 4:24 pm to VABuckeye
Definitely on the list and happening in this order most likely
-Lake Como 2 days
-Interlaken and Lauterbrunnen 2 days
-From there TBD
Any point in seeing Geneva?
Thinking night in Lyon to break the trip then over to
-Boudreaux or down to Montpellier (if it’s Bordeaux we will go through Mont after)
-Marseille
-Nice/Eze
Then on to Italy. Dolomites seem too far “out of the way” so maybe down through Genoa and Monterosso on our way to Tuscany/Florence. TBD on stops here but the suggestions so far look killer.
Can’t decide if I’m gonna get an air BnB for a week and do day trips to vineyards or relocated every couple days to the different towns/vineyards if they have lodging
-Sienna
-Rome
Trip over.
-Lake Como 2 days
-Interlaken and Lauterbrunnen 2 days
-From there TBD
Any point in seeing Geneva?
Thinking night in Lyon to break the trip then over to
-Boudreaux or down to Montpellier (if it’s Bordeaux we will go through Mont after)
-Marseille
-Nice/Eze
Then on to Italy. Dolomites seem too far “out of the way” so maybe down through Genoa and Monterosso on our way to Tuscany/Florence. TBD on stops here but the suggestions so far look killer.
Can’t decide if I’m gonna get an air BnB for a week and do day trips to vineyards or relocated every couple days to the different towns/vineyards if they have lodging
-Sienna
-Rome
Trip over.
This post was edited on 8/1/22 at 4:26 pm
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