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What is the difference between a missle and a guided rocket?

Posted on 7/31/22 at 3:47 pm
Posted by flyAU
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Posted on 7/31/22 at 3:47 pm
I find the HIMARS really interesting that they are so precision as a “rocket”. When I think of rockets I think of unguided munitions. These things can hit a designated area 80 km or further.

HIMARS:



Standard unguided rocket:



Why aren’t these called missles


Posted by Purplehaze
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Posted on 7/31/22 at 3:50 pm to
Google
Posted by DolphinDaddy
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Posted on 7/31/22 at 3:51 pm to
Hold on I’ll go ask my local dealer.

Posted by flyAU
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Posted on 7/31/22 at 3:51 pm to
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Purplehaze


I hope a HIMARS targets you.
Posted by GetCocky11
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Posted on 7/31/22 at 4:02 pm to
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Hold on I’ll go ask my local dealer.



Posted by UndercoverBryologist
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Posted on 7/31/22 at 4:04 pm to
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between a missle and a guided rocket?


I think they’re essentially synonymous. Like toilet and commode.
Posted by flyAU
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Posted on 7/31/22 at 4:06 pm to
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I think they’re essentially synonymous. Like toilet and commode.


HIMAMS doesn’t sound as cool.
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 7/31/22 at 4:12 pm to
A missile is any projectile. A guided rocket is a powered projectile. A spear getting thrown through the air is a missile.


Same line of thought as a square is a rectangle but a rectangle might not be a square.
This post was edited on 7/31/22 at 4:14 pm
Posted by flyAU
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Posted on 7/31/22 at 4:16 pm to
The military doesn’t seem to mince words. Which is why this is odd to me. Why use two words at all? Rocket pods, sidewinder missle, ICBM etc. if that is the case? I feel there is a bigger reason for the differing designation.
Posted by S
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Posted on 7/31/22 at 4:23 pm to
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Hold on I’ll go ask my local dealer.


This post was edited on 7/31/22 at 4:24 pm
Posted by Paul Allen
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Posted on 7/31/22 at 4:23 pm to
Chris Rix
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 7/31/22 at 4:23 pm to
The government has never really made any sense in what they do.

Rocket pod is pretty self-explanatory.
Couldn't tell you why Sidewinders are named "missiles".
The only explanation I have about ICBM's is, technically speaking, that is a rocket that releases it's payload....and not using the rocket itself for impact.

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This is usually achieved by providing the missile with enough energy to fly very high up - usually into space. After this point, what will return to Earth is left to fall under the influence of gravity, although some also have rocket thrusters to help them orient themselves. In fact, this is, to a certain extent, how most ballistic weapons work.


This post was edited on 7/31/22 at 4:24 pm
Posted by flyAU
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Posted on 7/31/22 at 4:25 pm to
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pankReb


Plot twist is that HIMARS can shoot rockets AND missles.

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6 × 227 mm M30/M31 series rockets or 1 x 610 mm ATACMS missile
This post was edited on 7/31/22 at 4:28 pm
Posted by FAP SAM
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Posted on 7/31/22 at 4:28 pm to
What's the difference between a missle and a missile?
Posted by rantfan
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Posted on 7/31/22 at 4:50 pm to
As a whole, rockets are short-range weapons because they can’t be guided after launch. On the other hand, missiles include a navigation system and a second engine to adjust the direction after launch. Therefore, missiles are preferred for long-range attacks.
Also, rockets can carry a human payload while missiles do not.
This post was edited on 7/31/22 at 4:52 pm
Posted by flyAU
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Posted on 7/31/22 at 4:53 pm to
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As a whole, rocket are short-range weapons because they can’t be guided after launch. On the other hand, missiles include a navigation system and a second engine to adjust the direction after launch. Therefore, missiles are preferred for long-range attacks


Sidewinders don’t have a second engine to my knowledge. Also sidewinders are close in missles vs the HIMARS shoooting 80km rockets. Additionally these rockets are GPS guided which means they aren’t your normal MLRS dumb rockets.
Posted by MoarKilometers
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Posted on 7/31/22 at 5:06 pm to
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The only explanation I have about ICBM's is, technically speaking, that is a rocket that releases it's payload....and not using the rocket itself for impact.

Tis true and pretty much why the IRBM (intermediate range lol) PGM-17 Thor is identical to the OG Delta rockets.
Posted by flyAU
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Posted on 7/31/22 at 5:15 pm to
TBH I didn’t realize guided rockets were a thing until we started sending these HIMARS and such.
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 7/31/22 at 5:17 pm to
The other thing to think about is I doubt the military is the one naming these munitions. These are developed by private companies and I'm guessing they aren't as by the book with naming them.
Posted by flyAU
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Posted on 7/31/22 at 5:17 pm to
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What's the difference between a missle and a missile?


I have been spelling it wrong forever? Holy shite.
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