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re: PAC-10 SOS's;
Posted on 10/21/08 at 2:03 pm to The Easter Bunny
Posted on 10/21/08 at 2:03 pm to The Easter Bunny
Probably. They win with him though IMO. UW has played the #1 SOS in the nation. Maybe with an easier schedule Locker does not get injured. Who knows?
Posted on 10/21/08 at 2:06 pm to MJRuffalo
Schedules aside, Washington and Washington State are two of the worst teams in all BCS conferences. Arizona State and UCLA are bad by any conferences standards. Oregon State, California, Oregon, Arizona, and Stanfard are mediocre/semi good teams. USC is the only legitimate T25 team in the conference.
Posted on 10/21/08 at 2:09 pm to Hedonist
UW isn't nearly as bad as WSU, not even close, especially if Locker stays healthy. UW annually plays one of the toughest schedules in the nation and you really have to give them credit for it.
On the flip side, teams in the Big12 and SEC generally play tougher conference games which in turn balances poor OOC scheduling for the most part. I still think all BCS schools should schedule a money game (Sun Belt, MAC, etc), a tough lower level team (WAC, lower BCS team), and then a middle to upper tier BCS team. Teams with 4 OOC should probably get another Baylor or Fresno type team.
SOS doesn't mean that much to me until all teams have played 8 games or so. Teams like LSU, FSU, USC, etc have only played 6 or so
On the flip side, teams in the Big12 and SEC generally play tougher conference games which in turn balances poor OOC scheduling for the most part. I still think all BCS schools should schedule a money game (Sun Belt, MAC, etc), a tough lower level team (WAC, lower BCS team), and then a middle to upper tier BCS team. Teams with 4 OOC should probably get another Baylor or Fresno type team.
SOS doesn't mean that much to me until all teams have played 8 games or so. Teams like LSU, FSU, USC, etc have only played 6 or so
Posted on 10/21/08 at 2:11 pm to Hedonist
I would take Oregon, Oregon St. CAL and Arizona over the bottom 8 or so teams in the top 25 right now. Easy.
Posted on 10/21/08 at 2:19 pm to MJRuffalo
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I would take Oregon, Oregon St. CAL and Arizona over the bottom 8 or so teams in the top 25 right now. Easy.
But would you take them over non-top 25 teams like New Mexico, Stanford, and Maryland? Because they didn't fair so hot when the actually played those teams
This post was edited on 10/21/08 at 2:20 pm
Posted on 10/21/08 at 2:23 pm to lsumatt
Let's see I would definately take CAL over Maryland if the game is not being played at 9 am PST. Worst CAL has played all season. Oregon would smoke New Mexico, Arizona is undefeated at home so I would definately take them over any of those teams at home, you know the place where most SEC teams play their ooc games.
In Zona's loss vs New mexico they had 5 turnovers, and their best player did not play. It was an upset they happen.
Would you take last years LSU team over final unranked teams like Kentucky or Arkansas?
In Zona's loss vs New mexico they had 5 turnovers, and their best player did not play. It was an upset they happen.
Would you take last years LSU team over final unranked teams like Kentucky or Arkansas?
This post was edited on 10/21/08 at 2:32 pm
Posted on 10/21/08 at 2:36 pm to MJRuffalo
MJRuffalo, quit bringing the USC/PAC 10 propaganda from Ted Miller, a PAC 10 journalist, over here. Especially when its been copied and pasted from WeAreSC.com. Of course it's going to be a biased article. For every pro Pac 10 article you find I can find an article from a writer in the south that states how easy USC has it playing in the Pac 10 every year. As Les would say, "I would like to have that path."
This post was edited on 10/21/08 at 2:40 pm
Posted on 10/21/08 at 2:43 pm to silstang23
It is to point out the truth. To those simpletons that look soley at opponent winning percentage like CBS.com the Pro SEC site adn network. It does require just a little bit of critical thinking so at least half the people here would fall short of understanding.
Posted on 10/21/08 at 2:47 pm to MJRuffalo
Why?
Arizona lost to Stanford and New Mexico
Cal lost badly to Maryland
Oregon struggled past Purdue and lost at home to Boise
Oregon State was destroyed by PSU (no shame there), Utah (should have won that one) but lost to Stanford as well
And no Stanford doesn't seem to be any good when they are losing to Notre Dame and UCLA (as well as TCU - no shame in losing to them tho)
Those aren't horrible teams... but they certainly aren't top 25 teams IMO
Arizona lost to Stanford and New Mexico
Cal lost badly to Maryland
Oregon struggled past Purdue and lost at home to Boise
Oregon State was destroyed by PSU (no shame there), Utah (should have won that one) but lost to Stanford as well
And no Stanford doesn't seem to be any good when they are losing to Notre Dame and UCLA (as well as TCU - no shame in losing to them tho)
Those aren't horrible teams... but they certainly aren't top 25 teams IMO
Posted on 10/21/08 at 2:51 pm to molsusports
CAL actually owned from mid 3rd quarter on, they were in just too big of a hole. They were stupid to agree to play at that time just to be on TV.
Oregon St. was horrible at the beginning of the season, but have improved greatly since the game vs Hawaii. Zona, what can you say you don't have your best player and you turn the ball over 5 times on the road you are going to lose.
Now what happens if Alabama loses to Tennessee this week? I mean Tennessee lost to Ucla, what will that say about the SEC?
Oregon St. was horrible at the beginning of the season, but have improved greatly since the game vs Hawaii. Zona, what can you say you don't have your best player and you turn the ball over 5 times on the road you are going to lose.
Now what happens if Alabama loses to Tennessee this week? I mean Tennessee lost to Ucla, what will that say about the SEC?
Posted on 10/21/08 at 2:53 pm to Tigerbait337
Too bad the SEC doesn't have the balls to play MWC teams on the road. I would like to see any of them play BYU in Provo, or @TCu or @Utah. Never see it though. SEC is only .500 against the WAC, and that is playing the lower half of the WAC at that.
Posted on 10/21/08 at 2:55 pm to MJRuffalo
If it is TRUE what facts do you have to support that if PAC 10 teams schedule teams like the Big 12, Big 10, and SEC does they would have winning records and be ranked? I'm sorry Portland St., Northern Arizona, UNLV, San Jose St., New Mexico, Colorado St, Idaho, Toledo, Utah St. aren't exactly BCS caliper teams. Pac 10 already plays these teams and I'm not going to mention the Pac 10's record vs the MWC because everyone already knows. MWC is not a BCS conference and when those games were scheduled against the MWC none of them were ranked. Don't act like the Pac 10 doesn't schedule cup cakes. Their already playing them and still can't get more than one team in the Top 25. So what evidence do you have to support the fact that if the Pac 10 starts scheduling pansies AGAIN they would have a better record, be ranked, and be bowl eligible?
This post was edited on 10/21/08 at 2:59 pm
Posted on 10/21/08 at 2:55 pm to MJRuffalo
Yup, the SEC is dodging the MWC.
Posted on 10/21/08 at 3:00 pm to MJRuffalo
If a SEC team is travelling I'm somewhat disapointed when they chose to do so against a non bcs opponent... And no i'm not referring to the LSU/Tulane series... that's hardly much of a road trip... I'm talking about LSU's home/away against TCU lined up early next decade (2012 or 2013 i think)
Even considering the advantage in recruiting in Texas this may represent - I'd much rather LSU played in the house of a BCS opponent instead... if you are going to give up the revenue of a home stadium I want to see LSU on television at another big stadium (playing on the biggest possible stage)
Even considering the advantage in recruiting in Texas this may represent - I'd much rather LSU played in the house of a BCS opponent instead... if you are going to give up the revenue of a home stadium I want to see LSU on television at another big stadium (playing on the biggest possible stage)
Posted on 10/21/08 at 3:02 pm to MJRuffalo
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CAL actually owned from mid 3rd quarter on, they were in just too big of a hole. They were stupid to agree to play at that time just to be on TV.
they lost fairly and badly because they were badly outscored by the other team
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Oregon St. was horrible at the beginning of the season, but have improved greatly since the game vs Hawaii. Zona, what can you say you don't have your best player and you turn the ball over 5 times on the road you are going to lose.
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Now what happens if Alabama loses to Tennessee this week? I mean Tennessee lost to Ucla, what will that say about the SEC?
So if Oregon State gets better during the season they get better? If Tennessee generally sucks but scores an upset win then it says bad things about the SEC?
You have really assimilated into rantardom I think
Posted on 10/21/08 at 3:05 pm to molsusports
No, I was just proving a point. That is why I posed it as a question. Teams can improve. Oregon St. for one is known for being a very slow starter, they had to replace all 7 starters from their front 7.
Posted on 10/21/08 at 3:07 pm to molsusports
All of this Pac 10 SOS BS is really played out. You post this thread 3 times a week.
I'd like to see conferences play other conferences heads-up kinda like the ACC/Big 10 challenge in college basketball. SEC vs Big 12, MWC vs Pac 10, Big 10 vs ACC or anything like that. It would be 1 game for each team and would be a media circus. I know individual teams are responsible for their own schedule but if we could get something like this in some shape or fashion I think it would make for some really intriguing matchups.
I'd like to see conferences play other conferences heads-up kinda like the ACC/Big 10 challenge in college basketball. SEC vs Big 12, MWC vs Pac 10, Big 10 vs ACC or anything like that. It would be 1 game for each team and would be a media circus. I know individual teams are responsible for their own schedule but if we could get something like this in some shape or fashion I think it would make for some really intriguing matchups.
Posted on 10/21/08 at 3:08 pm to MJRuffalo
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No, I was just proving a point. That is why I posed it as a question. Teams can improve.
You only prove your perspective is skewed if you try and apply one standard to one team and another to another team
Posted on 10/21/08 at 3:09 pm to MJRuffalo
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Teams can improve.
Virginia being the best current example.
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