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Novak and nadal

Posted on 7/10/22 at 10:50 pm
Posted by OliverQueen81
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Posted on 7/10/22 at 10:50 pm
Are 15-2 the last 17 slams. Crazy and can you say dominant. That's not even including Federer. I think Roger should call it a career and move on.
This post was edited on 7/10/22 at 11:26 pm
Posted by TheWalrus
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Posted on 7/10/22 at 11:12 pm to
This dominant/dominate thing must be an elaborate troll at this point.
Posted by OliverQueen81
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Posted on 7/10/22 at 11:26 pm to
No troll just my phone is super sensitive.
Posted by Stagg8
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Posted on 7/11/22 at 6:20 am to
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No troll just my phone is super sensitive.


So it would rather be dominated than dominant?
Posted by OliverQueen81
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Posted on 7/11/22 at 7:01 am to
I guess. It's a new phone and often times doesn't type close to what I am saying. Lol
Posted by cajuntiger33
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 7/11/22 at 9:11 am to
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I think Roger should call it a career and move on.


I mean he basically has. The guy hasn't played a match in over a year.
Posted by Splackavellie
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Posted on 7/11/22 at 9:13 am to
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I think Roger should call it a career and move on.


Maybe he just likes to play competitive professional tennis?
Posted by Who_Dat_Tiger
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Posted on 7/11/22 at 9:13 am to
The Big 3 dominate the sport. 15 of the last 17 have been won by Nadal or Djokovic. Since Federer won his first major at 2003 Wimbledon, 63 of the last 76 grand slam championships have been won by Federer, Nadal, Djokovic.

22 for Nadal
21 for Djokovic
20 for Federer

The 3 highest earners ever at $130M+ each. The next highest earner is Andy Murray at $63M.

The U.S. Open next month could be the first major in 20 years none of them compete at. Federer’s retired, Nadal is injured and Djokovic is a pureblood.
Posted by OliverQueen81
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Posted on 7/11/22 at 9:31 am to
I think Taylor fritz has a chance then.
Posted by bamameister
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Posted on 7/11/22 at 9:32 am to
Where Nadal gives me a major pause as the all-time best are his 14 French titles making up his total. Far too many on a playing surface that is one step above velcro. I think he's an all-time "specialist" but not when the game gets fast.
Posted by OliverQueen81
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Posted on 7/11/22 at 9:34 am to
I agree with you bamamiester
Posted by MetroAtlantaGatorFan
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Posted on 7/11/22 at 10:05 am to
Well he's gonna stay ahead in majors as long as Joker won't get vaxxed.
Posted by bamameister
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Posted on 7/11/22 at 10:11 am to
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Well he's gonna stay ahead in majors as long as Joker won't get vaxxed.



Why does that make you the best? Trying to control politics in sports has always been a losing proposition.
Posted by barry
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Posted on 7/11/22 at 10:36 am to
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Where Nadal gives me a major pause as the all-time best are his 14 French titles making up his total. Far too many on a playing surface that is one step above velcro. I think he's an all-time "specialist" but not when the game gets fast.


There are 3 surfaces, any particular reason why you are discounting clay?

He has 6 hardcourt titles and another 5 trips to the finals
Posted by bamameister
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Posted on 7/11/22 at 11:16 am to
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There are 3 surfaces, any particular reason why you are discounting clay?



It's the closest surface I know to actually having to ice skate with a tennis racket.

Clay is obviously the slowest surface of the three, meaning it slows down the speed of the tennis ball and generates a higher bounce. It's most effective for baseline players and those who use a lot of spin on the ball. Nadal is such a "specialist." That's what I mean.

Posted by Globetrotter747
Member since Sep 2017
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Posted on 7/11/22 at 12:15 pm to
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Clay is obviously the slowest surface of the three, meaning it slows down the speed of the tennis ball and generates a higher bounce. It's most effective for baseline players and those who use a lot of spin on the ball. Nadal is such a "specialist." That's what I mean.

He’s great everywhere. He’s just godlike on clay when at his best.
Posted by ChEgrad
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 7/11/22 at 6:23 pm to
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Where Nadal gives me a major pause as the all-time best are his 14 French titles making up his total. Far too many on a playing surface that is one step above velcro. I think he's an all-time "specialist" but not when the game gets fast.


He has more grand slam victories on non-clay that Federer and Djokavic have on clay. Perhaps they are hard court/grass specialists

Maybe a better measure of who the specialist is would be to compare how far Federer and Djokavic advanced on average in the French Open versus how far Nadal advanced on average on the other surfaces.
Posted by Eat Your Crow
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Member since May 2017
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Posted on 7/11/22 at 6:28 pm to
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I think he's an all-time "specialist" but not when the game gets fast.

The counterargument to this that people throw out is that Nadal has won the US Open once more than Djokovic, and only once less than Federer... and that's the fastest surface there is for a hardcourt slam.
This post was edited on 7/11/22 at 6:31 pm
Posted by Eat Your Crow
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Member since May 2017
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Posted on 7/11/22 at 6:32 pm to
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Well he's gonna stay ahead in majors as long as Joker won't get vaxxed.

I don't think so. I don't think Nadal is going to win the US Open or Australian Open even if Djokovic doesn't compete there. Even if you throw him one more French Open in 2023, he'll be 37 years old when that tournament finishes.

I think Novak can win three more slams even if he can't play the next two. Based on what we just saw at Wimbledon, you can pretty much pencil him in to win there again in 2023.
Posted by Gravitiger
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 7/11/22 at 11:20 pm to
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He has more grand slam victories on non-clay that Federer and Djokavic have on clay.
There are three times as many grand slams on non-clay surfaces.
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