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Anyone do covered calls?
Posted on 7/6/22 at 7:27 pm
Posted on 7/6/22 at 7:27 pm
Curious about others strategy
I sold AMD $80 July 29, 2022 at $2.66
I think it probably gets called but get 7% return. Also lowers by basis to $74 on downside.
Didn't realize it was after earnings if shares drop pre earnings might buy to close.
I sold AMD $80 July 29, 2022 at $2.66
I think it probably gets called but get 7% return. Also lowers by basis to $74 on downside.
Didn't realize it was after earnings if shares drop pre earnings might buy to close.
Posted on 7/6/22 at 7:30 pm to thelawnwranglers
All the time. Messing with EX div dates in my paper account.
Posted on 7/6/22 at 7:32 pm to j1897
What are your favorite to sell covered calls
Posted on 7/6/22 at 9:21 pm to thelawnwranglers
I do them and have for years.
Posted on 7/6/22 at 9:47 pm to thelawnwranglers
I’ve done them a lot.
I was very involved in Covered calls in the 90’s and early 2000’s but cut back a lot after the time constraint got too much.
I did some a few years ago on a few stocks that i held, had gains, wanted to sell and found some rich premiums which I thought made sense to do.
There’s some apps out can be helpful but I never tried any. Would love to know if any advice on that
I was very involved in Covered calls in the 90’s and early 2000’s but cut back a lot after the time constraint got too much.
I did some a few years ago on a few stocks that i held, had gains, wanted to sell and found some rich premiums which I thought made sense to do.
There’s some apps out can be helpful but I never tried any. Would love to know if any advice on that
Posted on 7/6/22 at 11:31 pm to thelawnwranglers
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What are your favorite to sell covered calls
Is your goal to get assigned at whatever strike you’re contemplating, or to continue holding and repeating the process on that underlying?
Posted on 7/7/22 at 6:18 am to thelawnwranglers
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I sold AMD $80 July 29, 2022 at $2.66
I think it probably gets called but get 7% return
Or you could replace your stock with an option. This is called a long diagonal spread or AKA a "poor man's covered call".
Go 4 months out and buy the AMD Oct 21 2022 50 call for $26. Sell the same $80 July 29 Call for $2.66. If you get called out, you now get a 24% return instead of a 7% return.
If the underlying doesn't perform, the call you sold will expire. So now you will have the potential to do the same thing for August, Sept, and Oct etc. You have 4 bites at the apple.
Just something different to think about.
This post was edited on 7/7/22 at 7:44 am
Posted on 7/7/22 at 7:04 am to frogtown
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Go 4 months out and buy the AMD Oct 21 2022 50 call for $26. Sell the same $80 July 29 Call for $2.66. If you get called out, you now get a 24% return instead of a 7% return.
I’m a bit confused when you say “sell the same $80 July 29 call”
If you bought sept 50 and sell July 80,
How are they the same?
Posted on 7/7/22 at 7:15 am to SlidellCajun
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“sell the same $80 July 29 call”
Sell the same $80 AMD call for $2.66 that lawnwrangler sold in his example.
In his example he uses the stock to "cover" his position.
In my example, I use an option.
This post was edited on 7/7/22 at 7:45 am
Posted on 7/7/22 at 7:31 am to thelawnwranglers
I had been right before the hurricane hit but since then haven’t had the time. It would’ve been awesome in this bear market.
Posted on 7/7/22 at 8:15 am to thelawnwranglers
In my robinhood account I do cash secured puts and covered calls...although not as much lately bagholding some stuff
If you really want to make some money, but take high risk, look into triple levered ETFs like TNA or TQQQ.
I say high risk because if you cant sell fast enough you might find yourself holding a triple leveraged ETF for quite some time after getting assigned...as I am with TNA right now
If you really want to make some money, but take high risk, look into triple levered ETFs like TNA or TQQQ.
I say high risk because if you cant sell fast enough you might find yourself holding a triple leveraged ETF for quite some time after getting assigned...as I am with TNA right now
Posted on 7/7/22 at 12:21 pm to thunderbird1100
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I do cash secured puts and covered calls...although not as much lately bagholding some stuff
You’re doing a version of the “wheel strategy” it sounds like. It’s one of the strategies that I also use. It’s a good, proven (over time) options selling strategy.
And yeah, sometimes it takes us awhile to sell off our “inventory”, doesn’t it?
Posted on 7/7/22 at 12:43 pm to Jag_Warrior
I have not
But my IB friend does all the time
But my IB friend does all the time
Posted on 7/7/22 at 12:48 pm to SlidellCajun
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I’m a bit confused when you say “sell the same $80 July 29 call” If you bought sept 50 and sell July 80, How are they the same?
In addition to what frogtown explained (very well, I might add), notice that the call that he hypothetically bought is deep in the money. So that call strike will trade essentially like the stock, because it has substantial intrinsic value. So he has some cushion there and is paying substantially less to control the same amount of stock than if he just bought shares… and he can use short calls to chip away at his long call purchase price.
Using his example, he could sell calls at any strike above $76 (50 long call strike + his 26 call cost) and still make money.
You just have to keep an eye on the price action of the stock and how the decrease in time value affects that long call - and how a spike in IV (say around earnings time) will boost the price of the long call (which is good!). But yeah, that’s another very good strategy for certain conditions and underlyings.
Posted on 7/7/22 at 8:41 pm to Jag_Warrior
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Is your goal to get assigned at whatever strike you’re contemplating, or to continue holding and repeating the process on that underlying?
I guess either is fine - wouldn't mind it just missing price and doing it again
You have to think what if it gets called
This post was edited on 7/7/22 at 8:45 pm
Posted on 7/7/22 at 8:43 pm to frogtown
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Just something different to think about.
Thanks going to have to up option level
Posted on 7/7/22 at 8:49 pm to thelawnwranglers
I sold Jan 23 Chevron at $155
That's 10% upside
$9.5 yesterday so seemed like good money
That's 10% upside
$9.5 yesterday so seemed like good money
Posted on 7/7/22 at 11:30 pm to thelawnwranglers
As long as you write a covered call at a strike you are ok with giving up your shares at, there is no downside to doing it.
The only downside is if the stock goes straight down, which would not be the CC’s fault but the underlying security.
The only downside is if the stock goes straight down, which would not be the CC’s fault but the underlying security.
Posted on 7/8/22 at 6:44 am to thelawnwranglers
Some stocks trade in a way that makes them perfect for writing calls
They trade in these ranges and you can take advantage of that without getting called out.
I don’t have any particular names to suggest but they’re generally the small caps that get swung easily by day traders
They trade in these ranges and you can take advantage of that without getting called out.
I don’t have any particular names to suggest but they’re generally the small caps that get swung easily by day traders
Posted on 7/8/22 at 8:53 am to Retrograde
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The only downside is if the stock goes straight down, which would not be the CC’s fault but the underlying security.
You can miss the opportunity to sell. I was selling covered calls on F. In about a 6 week period the stock went from 19 to 25 back to 19. I had sold some calls at like $22. Well it was below $22 by the expiration date and thus they never got called away. I would have sold everything at $25 if they weren't in the options trade and actually did sell the shares that weren't in the options contract.
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