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Butchie/New York takes over.

Butchie gave the okay to whack Phil, and becomes the boss of the Lupertazzi family. Then he double crosses Tony and the lupertazzi family absorbs whatever is left of Jersey. Patsi and Paulie more than likely fall in line to save their own hide.

NJ gets busted down from a family to a crew.
Paulie and Patsy are the captains, Silvio was incapacitated, Baccala was whacked, Carlo had flipped

Paulie took over the protection, shylock and sports book
Patsy took over what was left of the garbage, construction and unions

Paulie, Patsy and Silvio would have been arrested on RICO soon after from Carlo/Big Pussy/Massarone/Ray Curto/etc all flipped

I subscribe to the theory that Patsy was the one who betrayed Tony for the hit in revenge for his twin Brother Philly getting whacked.
How Machiavellian was Patsy Parisi?

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Posted by Jamohn

Das Boot

Member since Mar 2009

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Posted on 6/29/22 at 3:41 pm to supatigah

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NJ gets busted down from a family to a crew.
Paulie and Patsy are the captains, Silvio was incapacitated, Baccala was whacked, Carlo had flipped

Paulie took over the protection, shylock and sports book
Patsy took over what was left of the garbage, construction and unions

Paulie, Patsy and Silvio would have been arrested on RICO soon after from Carlo/Big Pussy/Massarone/Ray Curto/etc all flipped

I subscribe to the theory that Patsy was the one who betrayed Tony for the hit in revenge for his twin Brother Philly getting whacked.
How Machiavellian was Patsy Parisi?

This. Carmine Sr. always said they were nothing but a glorified crew anyway. This is just fulfilling their destiny.

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Posted by Righteous Dude

Member since Oct 2017

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Posted on 6/29/22 at 4:19 pm to supatigah

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I subscribe to the theory that Patsy was the one who betrayed Tony for the hit in revenge for his twin Brother Philly getting whacked.

Me too

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Posted by PowerTool

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Member since Dec 2009

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Posted on 6/29/22 at 5:01 pm to supatigah

Paulie doesn't take over shite. Tony had a soft spot for him because he'd looked up to Paulie when he was younger, but he's a street guy who wouldn't last long in management.

It's Patsy all the way. Time was on his side.

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Posted by HuskyPanda

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Member since Feb 2018

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Posted on 7/13/22 at 8:11 am to supatigah

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NJ gets busted down from a family to a crew.

This. Phil was correct in stating that the NJ crew was a glorified crew. With Chris and Bobby dead, Paulie perhaps would run it but he was going through his existential crisis. The only other option is Philly. However...

Butch doesn't respect the DiMeo family and I'm willing to bet he absorbs the remaining members of the family and they become part of the NY crime family.

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