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What is the answer to gun violence?
Posted on 6/22/22 at 10:14 pm
Posted on 6/22/22 at 10:14 pm
Some quick background:
I am a lifelong Republican, having registered Republican when I was 18, some fifty plus years ago. I have NEVER voted for a Democrat and even voted for Duke over…..not even going to post his name. I do not own a firearm and honestly, other than pellet guns when I was a youngster, have never fired a gun.
Over the years, I have unfortunately seen too many gun shot victims, many intentionally shot and sadly, quite a few unintentional victims because of accidents. During trauma residency at The Big Charity, I was witness to horrific gun injuries and deaths, many that I still recall thirty plus years later.
Over the years, I have spent time wondering what the answer was to stop or minimize these gun related deaths and injuries. Now, that I am scaling back my ER time and nearing retirement, it troubles me that I have not thought of a possible solution.
I am in support of the second amendment and do not wish to see it revoked or changed in any way. I am asking the question – What is the answer to reduce these gun related incidents, whether it be the mass shootings or random shootings we read about daily? Is it reimplementation of the death penalty, better prosecution and stronger sentencing, more jails, better mental health care, national police force, etc.?
I read where advocates of gun control wish to have better background checks, extend wait times for a gun purchase, have strict requirements such as training to own a weapon. These things are okay for law abiding citizens, but what about the many individuals that own a gun illegally? How do we deal with these individuals?
Apologize for the long post as I am asking a simple question? What are your thoughts and suggestions on ways to reduce the gun violence?
I am a lifelong Republican, having registered Republican when I was 18, some fifty plus years ago. I have NEVER voted for a Democrat and even voted for Duke over…..not even going to post his name. I do not own a firearm and honestly, other than pellet guns when I was a youngster, have never fired a gun.
Over the years, I have unfortunately seen too many gun shot victims, many intentionally shot and sadly, quite a few unintentional victims because of accidents. During trauma residency at The Big Charity, I was witness to horrific gun injuries and deaths, many that I still recall thirty plus years later.
Over the years, I have spent time wondering what the answer was to stop or minimize these gun related deaths and injuries. Now, that I am scaling back my ER time and nearing retirement, it troubles me that I have not thought of a possible solution.
I am in support of the second amendment and do not wish to see it revoked or changed in any way. I am asking the question – What is the answer to reduce these gun related incidents, whether it be the mass shootings or random shootings we read about daily? Is it reimplementation of the death penalty, better prosecution and stronger sentencing, more jails, better mental health care, national police force, etc.?
I read where advocates of gun control wish to have better background checks, extend wait times for a gun purchase, have strict requirements such as training to own a weapon. These things are okay for law abiding citizens, but what about the many individuals that own a gun illegally? How do we deal with these individuals?
Apologize for the long post as I am asking a simple question? What are your thoughts and suggestions on ways to reduce the gun violence?
Posted on 6/22/22 at 10:15 pm to LC412000
What percentage of your guns killed innocent people?
Posted on 6/22/22 at 10:16 pm to LC412000
quote:
What is the answer to gun violence?
More good guys with guns.
Posted on 6/22/22 at 10:16 pm to LC412000
Parents, and the sacraments frequently.
Posted on 6/22/22 at 10:16 pm to LC412000
Acknowledge that the war on drugs has failed and we need to look at other approaches to solving this problem
Posted on 6/22/22 at 10:17 pm to roadGator
quote:I'm sorry, but I am not sure what you are asking?
What percentage of your guns killed innocent people?
Posted on 6/22/22 at 10:19 pm to LC412000
quote:shooting people who want gun control
What is the answer to gun violence?
Posted on 6/22/22 at 10:19 pm to LC412000
All mass shooters are documented occultists.
It’s a spiritual war.
It’s a spiritual war.
Posted on 6/22/22 at 10:20 pm to LC412000
A wicked culture is where our problems lie. Let us not continue turning a blind eye to the heart issue and instead embracing the fallacy that we can govern the lawless. The unborn can be slain, children can be indoctrinated with things of perverse nature, but it isn't until many little ones are massacred that leaders finally clamor for "change" Sadly, the attention is shifted to an
inanimate object rather than the wicked culture that helped create the monster holding it. You cannot have a depraved society that has a disregard for human life and then expect no resulting consequences. No law can stop the will of a wicked heart.
inanimate object rather than the wicked culture that helped create the monster holding it. You cannot have a depraved society that has a disregard for human life and then expect no resulting consequences. No law can stop the will of a wicked heart.
This post was edited on 6/22/22 at 10:20 pm
Posted on 6/22/22 at 10:20 pm to LC412000
You don’t. As long as guns exist there will be accidents, shootings, and mass shootings that are statistically insignificant in comparison to what they protect us from
ETA: just to put it into perspective, at the current rate, it would take 4,300 years of gun deaths to match how many people Mao Zedong’s communist regime killed in 40. The government is thousands of times more dangerous than guns and that’s why we have them
ETA: just to put it into perspective, at the current rate, it would take 4,300 years of gun deaths to match how many people Mao Zedong’s communist regime killed in 40. The government is thousands of times more dangerous than guns and that’s why we have them
This post was edited on 6/22/22 at 10:27 pm
Posted on 6/22/22 at 10:21 pm to LC412000
Thinking he’s pointing out that guns don’t kill people, it’s the evil behind the gun…. Like the Bath incident in Michigan, the deadliest elementary school incident, the guy firebombed the school, so evil will always find a way
This post was edited on 6/22/22 at 10:23 pm
Posted on 6/22/22 at 10:21 pm to LC412000
Not a single one of my guns has ever killed anyone.
The issue IS NOT the law abiding gun owner/gun purchaser.
The issue is (and is ALWAYS) a person using a gun illegally. Either they shouldn't have it in the first place (it is stolen, or they are a felon), or it is being used for an illegal purpose.
The issue IS NOT the law abiding gun owner/gun purchaser.
The issue is (and is ALWAYS) a person using a gun illegally. Either they shouldn't have it in the first place (it is stolen, or they are a felon), or it is being used for an illegal purpose.
Posted on 6/22/22 at 10:22 pm to LC412000
Any gun you own has killed exactly how many people?
It’s not a gun problem. It’s a people problem.
It’s not a gun problem. It’s a people problem.
This post was edited on 6/22/22 at 10:24 pm
Posted on 6/22/22 at 10:22 pm to LC412000
Fathers in the home.
Nuclear families.
Nuclear families.
Posted on 6/22/22 at 10:23 pm to FlexDawg
quote:I believe that you are correct in your thoughts on my question, but then how can this be changed? I don't think the gun is the problem, but the individuals who utilize guns for inappropriate reasons. I think we all agree a stronger family base is a start, but how is that addressed? How do we change the wicked culture?
FlexDawg
Posted on 6/22/22 at 10:24 pm to LC412000
quote:
gun violence
Guns cannot be violent, as they are inanimate objects. Just as machetes, baseball bats, knives, hammers, etc. cannot be violent.
Posted on 6/22/22 at 10:26 pm to roadGator
quote:I don't own a gun, I stated that in my original post. But, just because I do not own a gun, I don't think others should not own if they desire.
Any gun you own had killed exactly how many people?
Posted on 6/22/22 at 10:28 pm to NakaTrash
quote:Yes, I agree with you and probably worded incorrectly in my original post.
Guns cannot be violent, as they are inanimate objects. Just as machetes, baseball bats, knives, hammers, etc. cannot be violent.
Posted on 6/22/22 at 10:29 pm to LC412000
The very first step would be stop talking about guns as being the issue.
Posted on 6/22/22 at 10:32 pm to NakaTrash
Everyone is missing the point on this.
I said above that all mass shooters are occultists. I went thru these case by case from Pearl thru Columbine…
Many of you are in denial that this is a real spiritual war. How is the Antichrist going to force you to get the mark of the beast if everyone is running around with guns and playing Hank Williams Jr?
You may be able to skin a buck and run a trot line but -without the mark- you’re not going to survive long.
Oh, that mark, that’s why there’s got to be (at least) one more pandemic. This one will drive up the fear with a high mortality rate.
Enjoy this time as best you can… none of us will be alive (in our current form) in 15 years.
There’s not an answer.
I said above that all mass shooters are occultists. I went thru these case by case from Pearl thru Columbine…
Many of you are in denial that this is a real spiritual war. How is the Antichrist going to force you to get the mark of the beast if everyone is running around with guns and playing Hank Williams Jr?
You may be able to skin a buck and run a trot line but -without the mark- you’re not going to survive long.
Oh, that mark, that’s why there’s got to be (at least) one more pandemic. This one will drive up the fear with a high mortality rate.
Enjoy this time as best you can… none of us will be alive (in our current form) in 15 years.
There’s not an answer.
This post was edited on 6/22/22 at 10:33 pm
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