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re: Judge rules against St. George incorporation
Posted on 6/1/22 at 10:48 am to BigJim
Posted on 6/1/22 at 10:48 am to BigJim
I read the judge's ruling. It seems as if though the biggest issue that is preventing the incorporation from happening is the $3 million deficit that the City of St. George would be running on day one due to the estimated cost of pension and other post-employment benefits that are paid to City-Parish Employees. Also, it appears that the incorporators did not meet with the EBR Sheriff to determine what monetary contribution the City of St. George would make to have the EBR Sheriff provide additional public safety services.
It looks like there was an attempted bait and switch by incorporators trying to get people to vote for incorporation, promising no tax increases, but knowing that people who lived within the boundaries of the City of St. George would have their sales and/or property taxes increase to cover these budget shortfalls and money that would have to be raised via tax revenue to pay the EBR Sheriff for additional public safety services.
Pages 8-10 explain the judge's ruling more than anything else. The judge is pretty much saying that if you want the city, you're going to have to find a way to pay for it.
It looks like there was an attempted bait and switch by incorporators trying to get people to vote for incorporation, promising no tax increases, but knowing that people who lived within the boundaries of the City of St. George would have their sales and/or property taxes increase to cover these budget shortfalls and money that would have to be raised via tax revenue to pay the EBR Sheriff for additional public safety services.
Pages 8-10 explain the judge's ruling more than anything else. The judge is pretty much saying that if you want the city, you're going to have to find a way to pay for it.
This post was edited on 6/1/22 at 10:50 am
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Posted on 6/1/22 at 10:52 am to CrimeStoppers
Considering that BR has been unwilling to even meet with St George about a potential transition, how can one claim St George dropped the ball in totals?
No negotiation on legacy costs have taken place nor has the city given St George any concrete numbers on which to base a budget.
No negotiation on legacy costs have taken place nor has the city given St George any concrete numbers on which to base a budget.
This post was edited on 6/1/22 at 10:52 am
Posted on 6/1/22 at 11:20 am to CrimeStoppers
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I read the judge's ruling. It seems as if though the biggest issue that is preventing the incorporation from happening is the $3 million deficit that the City of St. George would be running on day one due to the estimated cost of pension and other post-employment benefits that are paid to City-Parish Employees. Also, it appears that the incorporators did not meet with the EBR Sheriff to determine what monetary contribution the City of St. George would make to have the EBR Sheriff provide additional public safety services.
As a whole, it looks like that is the only real hold up with Judge Coady not ruling in favor of St. George, but legally it seems that the city was formed within the law, and is not racist.
It looks like there was an attempted bait and switch by incorporators trying to get people to vote for incorporation, promising no tax increases, but knowing that people who lived within the boundaries of the City of St. George would have their sales and/or property taxes increase to cover these budget shortfalls and money that would have to be raised via tax revenue to pay the EBR Sheriff for additional public safety services.
Pages 8-10 explain the judge's ruling more than anything else. The judge is pretty much saying that if you want the city, you're going to have to find a way to pay for it.
I would say it is difficult to estimate the UAL contribution considering the city refused to meet with organizers of St. George, and I don't exactly understand why there should be legacy costs at all considering St. George will still be paying their 3% into the parish coffers, which should cover parish employees. EBR is clearly going to be harmed by St. George, due to their own financial mismanagement, and the organizers should also go to the state legislature with this ruling to start the process to get a school district, which still is the end goal. It seems it is a question of financial numbers, but one thing is blatantly obvious, Baton Rouge can't balance their books without St. George, and St. George may or may not be able to, but it will be close.
This post was edited on 6/1/22 at 11:22 am
Posted on 6/1/22 at 11:22 am to CrimeStoppers
Does the statute for incorporation state that the newly formed city must have a balanced budget?
If not, its irrelevant.
If not, its irrelevant.
This post was edited on 6/1/22 at 11:26 am
Posted on 6/1/22 at 11:32 am to CrimeStoppers
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Also, it appears that the incorporators did not meet with the EBR Sheriff to determine what monetary contribution the City of St. George would make to have the EBR Sheriff provide additional public safety services.
I for one am happy with the level of service the sheriff provides now. Why would becoming a city change what the sheriff does? It didn’t change for Central. And yes I know SG had more people than Central, but we pay way more taxes to the Sheriff than they do.
I know the Sheriff had been asked about his stance on the incorporation so he is aware of the situation. If SG was incorporated, and we had to pay for the Sheriff to patrol would we get our taxes to the Shetiff cut? We know the answer to that question.
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It looks like there was an attempted bait and switch by incorporators trying to get people to vote for incorporation, promising no tax increases, but knowing that people who lived within the boundaries of the City of St. George would have their sales and/or property taxes increase to cover these budget shortfalls and money that would have to be raised via tax revenue to pay the EBR Sheriff for additional public safety services.
It doesn’t look like that at all. It looks to me that the judge couldn’t let BR swim on their own. If SG becomes a city they would be the ones raising taxes. Not us. Do the math.
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han anything else. The judge is pretty much saying that if you want the city, you're going to have to find a way to pay for it.
If it were only that simple, I remember when we were told to get a school system, we had to form a city. See how that had worked out. The same people that advised us to do that, are the same people that sued to stop SG.
Posted on 6/1/22 at 12:09 pm to CrimeStoppers
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Also, it appears that the incorporators did not meet with the EBR Sheriff to determine what monetary contribution the City of St. George would make to have the EBR Sheriff provide additional public safety services.
Malarkey.
"According to our Finance and Budget division property taxes collected from the St. George area which fund the EBRSO office more than cover the cost to run the Kleinpeter substation. For fiscal year 2019 (July 1, 2018- June 30, 2019) it costs EBRSO approximately $2.99 million to operate Kleinpeter substation which services almost all of the proposed city of St. George as well as some areas inside the city of Baton Rouge."
Sheriff Gautreaux, 2019.
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