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Absent and defective parenting - solutions?

Posted on 5/27/22 at 11:05 am
Posted by Wednesday
Member since Aug 2017
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Posted on 5/27/22 at 11:05 am
Absent parents produce mentally ill children. I don’t care if it’s bc you’re a drug addict, too young or too stupid about the person you selected to have sex with - the only way out of all of this societal rot is for grown adults to take on their societal and moral obligations to support their own children.

The only things I learned in family law were - 1) you have a fundamental right to raise your child; and 2) you have a fundamental obligation to support your child. It’s as if we forgot those things! And now we have the added problem of government employees with pink hair and nose rings who don’t know what gender they are thinking they have the right to raise your kid.

Enough My suggestions for solutions:

1- End abortion on demand as a means of birth control. If people want to do it like alleycats- they should deal with the consequences. Those consequences include- raising your baby if you make one. BOTH OF YOU. Abortion on demand made the responsibility disposable. I have 2 friends who had babies and took law school finals within a few weeks of giving birth. Their kids didn’t become criminals. They married the dads. And BOTH women are successful attorneys. There is fundamentally NO excuse for abortion on demand. Sorry honey. You can still go to beauty school, law school or medical school with a baby. They don’t kick you out for having one.

2- Send parents to jail if they raise a lunatic that kills 19 children. You created that monster. If your 17 yr old gets in a car accident that kills every kid on school bus? GUESS WHAT? You’re liable, in tort —ALREADY! So why exactly are we letting this drug addicted lowlife who dumped her kid on her elderly parents and her Tom Cat of a sperm donor off the hook here????

3- Jail men that abandon their babies and don’t pay child support. Just put them in jail. Make them worse than the pariahs most people think they are. Sooner or later there will be an inverse incentive to just WEAR A CONDOM.

4- Jail drug addict parents who dump their own kids in favor of their addiction. Don’t just take their kids away. Put them in fricking jail. Because guess what? Sooner or later their spawn will be shooting up high schools or robbing liquor stores.

5- bring back mental institutions and put people in them when they show dangerous or threatening behavior. Young people. Old people. Homeless people. Any kind of People. These people don’t necessarily belong in a prison. But they sure as shite may need to live out their days in an asylum. Doing otherwise is cruel. These people are ill. They require medical attention. There’s nowhere to send crazy people so they don’t endanger themselves or others.

6- bring back juvenile detention centers. I had a friend who’s a MSW tell me that kids no longer go to these. They send them back to HS with ankle bracelets. WTF?

ETA (ripped off from TD01241 below)

7- Do away with incentives to be a single mother and pop out as many kids as you can. Possibly re route those funds to helping out low income nuclear families. We need to incentivize GOOD present parenting. Parenting is more than financial support. It’s protecting your kid. Loving your kid. Being present with your kid. I read somewhere that one of the most significant indicators for a child’s success is as simple as family dinner time. Don’t just feed your kid. Share a meal with your family. Works better than a tutor.

Other suggestions welcome.

This post was edited on 5/27/22 at 2:17 pm
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
62927 posts
Posted on 5/27/22 at 11:06 am to
We need common sense parenting laws.
Posted by sugarbuzz
Badstreet USA
Member since May 2022
377 posts
Posted on 5/27/22 at 11:10 am to
Bring back shaming?

People don't want to hear that one, though.
Posted by td01241
Savannah
Member since Nov 2012
28763 posts
Posted on 5/27/22 at 11:10 am to
Do away with incentives to be a single mother and pop out as many kids as you can. Possibly re route those funds to helping out low income nuclear families.
Posted by BoarEd
The Hills
Member since Oct 2015
38862 posts
Posted on 5/27/22 at 11:14 am to
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Other suggestions welcome.



This will sound mysoginistic to some, but it boils down to the economy. We lost our way when women had to take to the workforce and we lost the nuclear family.

That isn't to say that women should just mind their place at home or anything, but that shite went haywire when women had to take to the workforce to make ends meet.
Posted by Wednesday
Member since Aug 2017
17139 posts
Posted on 5/27/22 at 11:14 am to
quote:

Bring back shaming?


I am down with some slut shaming and some man whore shaming.
Posted by the_truman_shitshow
Member since Aug 2021
2762 posts
Posted on 5/27/22 at 11:15 am to
Throw away the phones and tablets.

But realistically, throw away the phones and tablets and just speak to your children.

Posted by Wednesday
Member since Aug 2017
17139 posts
Posted on 5/27/22 at 11:17 am to
I am a female professional and I agree with this completely.

Posted by PaperTiger
Ruston, LA
Member since Feb 2015
26456 posts
Posted on 5/27/22 at 11:18 am to
quote:

Do away with incentives to be a single mother and pop out as many kids as you can. Possibly re route those funds to helping out low income nuclear families.


Its this and only this. You do this and it solves half the world's problems. Stop the rewards programs just to get votes.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78903 posts
Posted on 5/27/22 at 11:19 am to
Half your solutions to absent parenting is to put parents in jail.
Posted by Wednesday
Member since Aug 2017
17139 posts
Posted on 5/27/22 at 11:20 am to
Yes.
Posted by the_truman_shitshow
Member since Aug 2021
2762 posts
Posted on 5/27/22 at 11:22 am to
quote:

We lost our way when women had to take to the workforce and we lost the nuclear family.


Harken back to the Women's Liberation movement of the 1960's. It was a big political campaign, which on the surface, was a social movement for equality and to "empower" women to go into the workforce.

In hindsight, what did this really accomplish?
1) Enabled the Government the ability to tax you twice for working Husbands AND Wives
2) Put into motion the destruction of the Nuclear Family



Fast forward to today and look at the shite show. These guys play the LONG game.
This post was edited on 5/27/22 at 11:24 am
Posted by sugarbuzz
Badstreet USA
Member since May 2022
377 posts
Posted on 5/27/22 at 11:22 am to
Agreed
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78903 posts
Posted on 5/27/22 at 11:22 am to
I know that is Supposed to be a deterrent but doesn’t it just solidify their absentee status?

Also how do you make money to pay child support while in jail?
Posted by RTRinTampa
Central FL
Member since Jan 2013
5532 posts
Posted on 5/27/22 at 11:40 am to
quote:

Do away with incentives to be a single mother and pop out as many kids as you can. Possibly re route those funds to helping out low income nuclear families.


This one right here would resolve a lot of our societal issues. We have incentivized single mothers to breed for additional funds.
Posted by Oabafu
Wisconsin
Member since Jan 2022
1170 posts
Posted on 5/27/22 at 12:33 pm to
Adoption!??
Posted by Tazzzzz2349
Florida
Member since Dec 2020
97 posts
Posted on 5/27/22 at 1:10 pm to
They (demonrats ) destroyed the family until on purpose as it creates a generation of dependent, illiterate snow flakes that want every thing for free.
You know like ..uh… socialism
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78903 posts
Posted on 5/27/22 at 1:54 pm to
I thjnk You really underestimate how many people are fricking idiots and get knocked up unintentionally to a guy who just doesn’t want to be there.
Posted by Wednesday
Member since Aug 2017
17139 posts
Posted on 5/27/22 at 2:07 pm to
quote:

I know that is Supposed to be a deterrent but doesn’t it just solidify their absentee status?

Also how do you make money to pay child support while in jail?


If a father abandons his own child out of either spite for the mother - or just out of laziness, he’ll never be present or supportive. There’s no fixing that man. He’s broken.

We have as a society lost the ability to say - that’s morally wrong. It’s time we start saying it again. Abandoning your family is horrid. And inexcusable. And children never recover. It’s like a head injury. The damage is done.

I’m all about redemption and rehabilitation. But we can get all the child support judgments we want- the child won’t grow up with a dad. Kids need financial support - but they also need the
Emotional security that only a dad can provide. The child needs to at least know that his father’s abandonment of him isn’t acceptable. Somebody needs to stand up for that kid

There’s no fixing a loser who is willing to walk away from his own child. Prison is not to fix him. It’s a warning to others.
This post was edited on 5/27/22 at 2:08 pm
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
34323 posts
Posted on 5/27/22 at 2:57 pm to
STOP subsidizing it!
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