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re: What gun restrictions would you tolerate?
Posted on 5/25/22 at 11:44 pm to Eli Goldfinger
Posted on 5/25/22 at 11:44 pm to Eli Goldfinger
I think this makes sense and put the onus on PEOPLE and not inanimate objects.
1. Raise the minimum age to 21 for rifles. Sorry idiots, but 18 doesn't mean what it used to mean.
2. No real issue with a 3-5 day waiting period.
3. Keep the instant background check but allow it to accept licensed mental health practitioners to put holds if under treatment. This can't be that hard to implement with a simple, discreet method. Make it separate from the law enforcement check. Cops will just abuse this.
4. Expand background checks for private sales so that both parties must pass it. This is a slight nuisance for the law abiding but throws an additional charge for a future perp involved in a gun crime. Throws the book at the seller for selling to a known mook too. Cuts down on trafficking.
1. Raise the minimum age to 21 for rifles. Sorry idiots, but 18 doesn't mean what it used to mean.
2. No real issue with a 3-5 day waiting period.
3. Keep the instant background check but allow it to accept licensed mental health practitioners to put holds if under treatment. This can't be that hard to implement with a simple, discreet method. Make it separate from the law enforcement check. Cops will just abuse this.
4. Expand background checks for private sales so that both parties must pass it. This is a slight nuisance for the law abiding but throws an additional charge for a future perp involved in a gun crime. Throws the book at the seller for selling to a known mook too. Cuts down on trafficking.
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Posted on 5/26/22 at 12:01 am to DawgRebelinAL
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Raise the minimum age to 21 for rifles. Sorry idiots, but 18 doesn't mean what it used to mean.
Agreed. This isn’t Vietnam or WW2 anymore. Most 18 year olds are worrying about their phone service, tik tok videos, and where they can score a light beer.
The world (and this country) has evolved in a big way over the last couple of generations. People on here constantly rag on Gen Z, and wouldn’t trust them to cut their grass, but still seem fine allowing them to obtain weapons?
Posted on 5/26/22 at 12:28 am to DawgRebelinAL
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Raise the minimum age to 21 for rifles. Sorry idiots, but 18 doesn't mean what it used to mean.
So this seems to be the thing people are talking about.
So 18 is no longer an adult for other things? Really trying to understand how an 18 is going to be an adult/responsible for other things but not mature enough to buy a gun. 18yos do stupid things in cars, so they shouldn't be able to buy a car?
This is a serious question as I'm trying to understand this argument as I can't see the logic unless we officially move the adult age from 18 to 21.
What are 18-20yos mature enough to do w/o parents consent?
Posted on 5/26/22 at 1:49 am to DawgRebelinAL
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1. Raise the minimum age to 21 for rifles. Sorry idiots, but 18 doesn't mean what it used to mean.
Ok. So, a couple of questions...
1. For which other of our rights do you think we should raise the age to 21? Freedom of religion? Free speech? Due process? Speedy trial? Only those 21 and over have the right to due process of law and to be free of cruel and unusual punishment?
2. If none (or even if you support raising the age for other rights), do you also claim to support Originalist justices and demand an Originalist interpretation of the Constitution and do you decry judical activism of leftist justices who disregard the Constitution and make rulings up on the fly to suit their political preferences?
I don't really expect an answer- only a downvote. So, have at it.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 7:08 am to DawgRebelinAL
quote:Fine, then raise the age to join the military. If 18 year olds aren’t mature enough to buy a rifle or a case of beer, then they aren’t mature enough to sign up for a 6 year committment where they can potentially be shipped off to fight on the front lines of a war zone.
1. Raise the minimum age to 21 for rifles. Sorry idiots, but 18 doesn't mean what it used to mean.
quote:Or judges can just hand down stiffer sentences on the charges based on existing laws. What good are more laws if a judge lets the perp off with a slap on the wrist anyway or activist DA’s don’t prosecute? Democrats fight back on mandatory minimum sentences because its their base getting caught with stolen guns or in possession of firearms with drugs
a slight nuisance for the law abiding but throws an additional charge for a future perp involved in a gun crime.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 7:18 am to DawgRebelinAL
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Raise the minimum age to 21 for rifles. Sorry idiots, but 18 doesn't mean what it used to mean.
Are you willing to raise the voting age to 21 as well? What about the age to serve in the military.
My now 22 year old son was serving before he was 21 does that mean he should have been able to man a 6,000 round a minute weapon in his helicopter but not have a rifle for hunting?
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Expand background checks for private sales so that both parties must pass it.
How many legally transacted private sales (where the gun isn’t stolen to begin with for example) result in a shooting?
How about we begin with strict enforcement of the laws already on the books instead of taking rights away from law abiding people?
Posted on 5/26/22 at 8:00 am to DawgRebelinAL
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I think this makes sense and put the onus on PEOPLE and not inanimate objects.
1. Raise the minimum age to 21 for rifles. Sorry idiots, but 18 doesn't mean what it used to mean.
2. No real issue with a 3-5 day waiting period.
3. Keep the instant background check but allow it to accept licensed mental health practitioners to put holds if under treatment. This can't be that hard to implement with a simple, discreet method. Make it separate from the law enforcement check. Cops will just abuse this.
4. Expand background checks for private sales so that both parties must pass it. This is a slight nuisance for the law abiding but throws an additional charge for a future perp involved in a gun crime. Throws the book at the seller for selling to a known mook too. Cuts down on trafficking.
i'm for the most part a pro 2A absolutist. if you want a nuclear bomb, have at it. i trust my fellow american with one about as much as i trust my government with one.
that being said, a well regulated militia should have responsible people owning guns. i'm not the arbiter of that and unfortunately the government shouldn't be either.
i think 3 and 4 can be practical, but it would be abused. we already know that the government would have its' citizens punished for wrong think on COVID, and i have no reason to think they wouldn't do the same thing regarding gun ownership.
the root of the problem is that right is too scared of the NRA branch of the party to have anything that looks like gun control happen and the left is too scared of having anything that looks like accountability for one's actions to happen legislatively.
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