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re: "Saints do Saints Things" Draft Grade Article or Why Internet Journalists are Just That

Posted on 5/7/22 at 9:48 am to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 5/7/22 at 9:48 am to
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The probability that Olave hits is very high so your whole post is garbage



I'm posting statistical data. It's not my theory.

And the problem is if Olave isn't an all-pro very quickly, we overpaid. If Olave is a bust we completely fricked ourselves.

Also, in terms of proper strategy, Olave hitting or not is somewhat irrelevant. You can do the wrong thing and still have things turn out OK. Using hindsight bias and results-oriented thinking from the future is not the correct way to judge decisions in real time.

If you call an all-in for 100BBs preflop with 7-2, it's a bad decision even if you luckbox a win in the hand. Easiest example for this argument.

I have been explaining this argument on this site for over a decade. The latest example was the idiot Orgeron. Even after we won it all in 2019 I didn't back down from logic and good strategy and I was ultimately proven correct. This is the same situation.
Posted by Geauxgurt
Member since Sep 2013
10476 posts
Posted on 5/7/22 at 11:06 am to
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I'm posting statistical data. It's not my theory.

And the problem is if Olave isn't an all-pro very quickly, we overpaid. If Olave is a bust we completely fricked ourselves.


They don't seem to understand that people don't hate picking Olave, they hate the amount of capital used on a WR that while could be a pro-bowl guy, does not show the makings of am All-Pro. You could have gotten a higher potential lower floor guy in the second if you were planning on taking a risk.

This is the same thing they did with Trautman and wasting capital to go up and get him, but at least they thought his ceiling was really high.

Olave will never be a #1 WR unless you count someone like Cooks as a true #1. He will always be a #2, and that is why wasting not only the capital from the Philly trade, but then even more to get him was not logical. It was a waste in that sense.

He may turn out to be a really solid WR, but he will never be worth amount paid for him. Reminds me of the Ingram trade but worse.
Posted by cbree88
South Louisiana
Member since Feb 2010
5506 posts
Posted on 5/7/22 at 11:19 am to
Very well said, SlowFlowPro. I completely agree with everything you said. I hate the Saints draft strategy. They should be trading back, not trading up.

All teams are bad at the draft. Scouting is not an exact science. It’s very hit or miss. Therefore, you want to be able to have more guesses so that you’ll be more likely to hit on some of them. The Saints just don’t get it. They think their shite doesn’t stink or something.

Just ignore all the mouth breathers on this Saints Talk forum who can’t think their way out of a paper bag.

This post was edited on 5/7/22 at 11:38 am
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