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re: Seriously - What is up with KW?
Posted on 10/13/08 at 11:27 pm to Lester Earl
Posted on 10/13/08 at 11:27 pm to Lester Earl
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where do u think he would be drafted?
absolutely no clue
anywhere from 2rd to 5th i'd guess
chris henry and chris johnson have to give his draft slot hope
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Posted on 10/14/08 at 12:01 am to SlowFlowPro
Williams would go no higher than mid 4th I would think. He needs another yar. I hope he breaks out soon.
Posted on 10/14/08 at 12:11 am to PiscesTiger
Keiland Williams was better than Scott last year I thought, but he hasn't shown anything like that this year. I think the comparison to JV is way off, in 2003 Justin Vincent was a record setting beast and Keiland hasn't done anything like that. Justin Vincent went from "Oh my God we have him 3 more years!" to "Oh my God get the hell off of the field you are the slowest most ineffective rb I have ever seen." No matter what Keiland does, he can never be a bigger disapointment than Justin Vincent.
Posted on 10/14/08 at 12:15 am to GeauxTigers310
keilland has fumble problems in practice. thats why he doesnt play as much. once the coaches see that he's ready he'll play more. probly a confidence issue.
Posted on 10/14/08 at 12:19 am to fitz1190
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keilland has fumble problems in practice. thats why he doesnt play as much.
Please stop with that tired old line. By that thinking Charles Scott now has a fumbling problem ON THE FIELD, those actully matters. I don't know how anyone can say Keiland is soft, he only gets 1 or 2 carries a game.
This post was edited on 10/14/08 at 1:42 am
Posted on 10/14/08 at 12:25 am to fitz1190
quote:Yea, thats pretty stupid, thank god Rohan wasnt judged by practice.
keilland has fumble problems in practice. thats why he doesnt play as much. once the coaches see that he's ready he'll play more. probly a confidence issue.
Posted on 10/14/08 at 12:55 am to Boudin
I'm not buying the fumbling in practice syndrome. If any of you know any of the players, what's their stories?
SC game...we need to see #5.
SC game...we need to see #5.
Posted on 10/14/08 at 1:34 am to fitz1190
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keilland has fumble problems
Why would we have him returning kick offs if he has a fumbling problem?
I think KW needs to return our punts.
Posted on 10/14/08 at 4:20 am to LSUNO
I'm fairly certain if you transfer to another d1 school you sit out 1 year (which would be his last) and if he were to transfer to another SEC school (intra-conference) you have to sit out two years. No way he transfers w/in the SEC or any D1 school for that matter
Posted on 10/14/08 at 5:03 am to flyingtiger
he could transfer to any school because he hasn't used his redshirt. for example, he could go to Bama (God I hope not) redshirt next year and play in the following season.
Posted on 10/14/08 at 6:46 am to SlowFlowPro
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we're going to an i-form, run it straight at the D style
as a result, murphy and keiland just do not fit
KW runs best in the I-Formation where there is a defined hole to run through. He did his damage 2 years ago in that situation.
KWs problems are his own. He doesn't have good vision and has been unable to overcome that.
Posted on 10/14/08 at 6:47 am to Boudin
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I talked to KWs brother this past weekend and heard the most disturbing thing possible, Sports2 could back me up on this (although I doubt he would) but KW was thinking of transferring to another SEC school.
If he does so what. A blade of grass can take this guy down. If he had any heart at all he would resemble Hershel Walker or Ricky Williams(in college) but he goes down with the littlest of contact. Scott moves the pile, hester moved the pile=kw on the bench
Posted on 10/14/08 at 7:07 am to TigerRanter
He was overrated out of HS. He has no business even returning KOs. Going Pro? Hope that your joking cause he has no chance. He runs straight up. Next year he could be 4th string RB. Buster.
Posted on 10/14/08 at 7:21 am to SlowFlowPro
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as for transferring, keiland is much more likely to just go pro and not transfer
Agreed. KW is at least a year older than the other true juniors.
Posted on 10/14/08 at 7:56 am to moneyg
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KW runs best in the I-Formation where there is a defined hole to run through. He did his damage 2 years ago in that situation.
2 years ago keiland did his damage by making cuts, often outside, after that defined hole was closed by the D
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KWs problems are his own. He doesn't have good vision and has been unable to overcome that.
reggie bush has shitty vision also and he dominated CFB by coaches using him correctly
and keiland had good enough vision in 2006 to be pretty damn good when his initial hole closed
i just don't get why our coaches, especially a formerly creative guy like crowton, don't try something different anymore. and it isn't just with keiland. murphy is in the same boat.
Posted on 10/14/08 at 8:14 am to PiscesTiger
Pisces - well said. He did fit much better with the more room to operate and open field.
As for draft, I agree that the combine says it all.
As for draft, I agree that the combine says it all.
Posted on 10/14/08 at 9:04 am to SlowFlowPro
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2 years ago keiland did his damage by making cuts, often outside, after that defined hole was closed by the D
Bouncing a play outside is very different than seeing a cutback and being able to hit it. In fact, it can easily be argued with KW that it shows a lack of vision. Basically, he misses holes and bounces plays outside. When he gets the corner he's awesome. But, on plays that are not designed to go outside, very seldom will this occur...especially once the book on Keiland is out.
But, again, this was all done from the I formation. It suits him the best.
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reggie bush has shitty vision also and he dominated CFB by coaches using him correctly
Reggie Bush is a far superior athlete. This comparison is ridiculous and holds no water.
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and keiland had good enough vision in 2006 to be pretty damn good when his initial hole closed
I disagree. I think the majority of his successes in '06 were on plays that were well defined or where he was able to outrun people to the corner.
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i just don't get why our coaches, especially a formerly creative guy like crowton, don't try something different anymore.
I agree that you don't get it. Criticizing Crowton is a pretty audacious stance at this point. But, I guess nothing is beyond you.
Posted on 10/14/08 at 9:10 am to moneyg
Its pretty sad when you have a guy come in the program that is looked upon like an Adrian Peterson, Reggie Bush, Joe McKnight type of an impact on a program and all we are asking to do of the guy is to stand alongside TH on the kickoffs and occasionally get in for a screen pass on 2nd and long or 3rd and long. I am a believer that if we give this guy the ball alot more, we would all be licking our chops waiting to watch the KW show each week.
Posted on 10/14/08 at 9:12 am to Hudsonisback
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Going Pro? Hope that your joking cause he has no chance
GREAT FIRST POST JACKASS!
Posted on 10/14/08 at 9:14 am to moneyg
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Reggie Bush is a far superior athlete
keiland sure looked like a 4.35-4.40 guy in 2006 and 2007, and he has no problems bouncing it out
is bush better a juking in the open field? yes, but that's now where his damage was done, most of the time
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But, on plays that are not designed to go outside, very seldom will this occur
actually he's generally not super effective on plays designed to go to the outside, unless it's a screen or option pitch where he can maneuver in the open field...he did his damage breaking plays off and going outside
the new offensive staff apparently doesn't want him to do this. straight up the gut or bust
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I think the majority of his successes in '06 were on plays that were well defined or where he was able to outrun people to the corner.
but when he went outside, this was NOT the initial hole
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Criticizing Crowton is a pretty audacious stance at this point
eh...not after how we opened against UF. it's not criticism, really. crowton is just keeping shite simple as hell in the running game. i think it's the direction miles wants this offense to take.
remember crowton is a spread guy. when we went to the spread against UF and ditched the conservative stuff, our offense moved the ball
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