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re: For those wanting to live in a post-Christian America, how are you enjoying it

Posted on 4/8/22 at 4:24 pm to
Posted by Liberator
Revelation 20:10-12
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Posted on 4/8/22 at 4:24 pm to
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What is dinosaur “theory”? There are bones of dinosaurs..


The false timeline "theory" (for one) that claims "Dinosaurs" lived "millions and millions" of years ago.



Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
22782 posts
Posted on 4/8/22 at 4:26 pm to
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The false timeline "theory" (for one) that claims "Dinosaurs" lived "millions and millions" of years ago.



What is the true timeline for when dinosaurs lived?
Posted by Esquire
Chiraq
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 4/8/22 at 4:27 pm to
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It doesn't provide an age of the Earth


The poster above you claimed the Bible says it’s 6000 years old. Why so much confusion from such an accurate archaeological record?
Posted by MNCTigah
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 4/8/22 at 4:43 pm to
Yeah... Hitch. I miss him.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 4/8/22 at 4:57 pm to
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The poster above you claimed the Bible says it’s 6000 years old.
I'm not against the 6,000 year estimate based on the genealogies. I'm also not against the possibility that there are gaps in the genealogies. My view would put the age of the earth in the realm of thousands of years, not millions or billions.

And when I say that the Bible doesn't provide an age of the Earth, I mean just that: it doesn't directly say how old the Earth is. It can be inferred based on what it does say about things like genealogies, and other theories can be legitimately rejected due to what it does say, but it doesn't come out and say "today's date is X/X/XXXX, and God created the earth Y years ago"

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Why so much confusion from such an accurate archaeological record?
Because God, in revealing the contents of the Bible, didn't set out to specifically answer this question.

You are wanting to compare the accuracy of specific claims against the accuracy of unstated claims, or claims that are less specific, in order to attack the veracity of the Bible. That's not how it works. It's intellectually dishonest, and I've got the sneaking suspicion that you know it's dishonest but just don't care.
This post was edited on 4/8/22 at 5:07 pm
Posted by Tmcgin
BATON ROUGE
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Posted on 4/8/22 at 5:13 pm to
I’m in church
U all should be
Trumps busy cheating at golf
Posted by 93and99
Dayton , Oh / Allentown , Pa
Member since Dec 2018
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Posted on 4/8/22 at 5:14 pm to
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Tmcgin


Trump fricked your wife.
Posted by whatkindanameiskirby
Member since Aug 2016
2092 posts
Posted on 4/8/22 at 5:20 pm to
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The God of the Bible is perfect in every way possible.


...then his holy book would be without errors. However, it's full of historical inaccuracies with stories that have no evidence to back them up.

If he was so perfect, his holy book would be easy to understand. But Christians can't even agree on it. That's why you have Protestants and Catholics and many other branches of Christianity that argue with each other.
Posted by Liberator
Revelation 20:10-12
Member since Jul 2020
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Posted on 4/8/22 at 5:26 pm to
Thanks Foo -- in the process of articulating several new points in rebuttal to a skeptic, you've also managed now to expose one of THE major flashpoints of PTB's agenda by the mid- 1800s that revised THEN replaced a battery of long-standing truths and beliefs -- with just this one blow. This collusion was the beginning quite the rebellion that speaks to the original OP question...today.

Undermining and discrediting Scriptural Truth and Biblical perspective in the lives of the Christian masses enabled this Humanist PTB to re- direct them AWAY from a God-centered mindset into one geared far more toward "more secular scholarship in the fields of (REVISED) history, literary criticism, modern philosophy, and science."

I had NO idea that there was an actual period of time in the 1800s called, "Higher Criticism" that NOT ONLY targeted the Bible for "revisionism", but its believers recruited and swept into their new religion of Secular Humanism.

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During the period of higher criticism in the 1800's, the higher critics argued that the Bible was not trustworthy because it mentioned a people known as the Hittites that were, at the time, lacking in historical evidence. That is, until the 1871 when Carchemish was discovered and evidence was shown that the Hittites were a historical people.


So...based on innuendo, lame "evidence"was provided. These Secular Humanists floated the new narrative about parts of the Bible being bogus, and voila! Rumors took hold and by the time the truth was revealed, a generation of believers was tainted with lies. (SAME TECHNIQUES USED THEN BY HUMANISTS AS TODAY)


In the process, those evil SOBs who controlled the halls of academia conspired to create just enough doubt in the Bible in one fall swoop to usher in new concepts in:

Evolution. Pre-Adamic Man. Young Earth replaced by Old Earth. Heliocentrism. "Space" travel. Also a casualty: A sizable past that was destroyed, buried, revised and re-written to fit brand new narratives -- as were whole-cloths of pre mid-1800s science, history, building, archaeology, geology, etc.

How about those apples.

According to Encyclopedia.com regarding 'HIGHER CRITICISM':

These newer biblical studies were also influenced by prevailing Enlightenment presuppositions, especially those espoused by Kant and Hegel.

Scholars in academic circles, however, employed the newer critical methods while trying to free biblical studies from the heavy hand of theological conviction.

Got it.

PTB / "Controllers" in the Mid 1800s played the long-game.

EXPOSED and BUSTED: Motive. Execution. Agenda. Post-Christian America.

This post was edited on 4/8/22 at 5:29 pm
Posted by Liberator
Revelation 20:10-12
Member since Jul 2020
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Posted on 4/8/22 at 5:35 pm to
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The poster above you claimed the Bible says it’s 6000 years old.


Pretty tricky. Nobody saw the set up coming! (Oh wait. Esquire being Esquire.) I hope you're not anywhere near a courtroom (other than as a "client")

Posted by Liberator
Revelation 20:10-12
Member since Jul 2020
8985 posts
Posted on 4/8/22 at 5:37 pm to
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To: Esquire:

It's intellectually dishonest, and I've got the sneaking suspicion that you know it's dishonest but just don't care.


Yup. It's dishonorable poster. Being who he/it is.



Posted by Liberator
Revelation 20:10-12
Member since Jul 2020
8985 posts
Posted on 4/8/22 at 5:38 pm to
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What is the true timeline for when dinosaurs lived?


You already know what I think; What's your guess? And why?
This post was edited on 4/8/22 at 5:39 pm
Posted by whatkindanameiskirby
Member since Aug 2016
2092 posts
Posted on 4/8/22 at 5:40 pm to
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You already know what I think; What's your guess? And why?



Dinosaurs didn't exist. They are lie created to test your faith in God.
This post was edited on 4/8/22 at 5:42 pm
Posted by Liberator
Revelation 20:10-12
Member since Jul 2020
8985 posts
Posted on 4/8/22 at 5:43 pm to
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Whether my comments are satisfactory or not to you is another matter. I don't think I'm going to convince you of anything because you have a hardened heart and must be "born again" by the Holy Spirit to accept the truth.


+100

All you can do is what you've been doing, brutha. Those with an open, honest heart will hear you.

Posted by Liberator
Revelation 20:10-12
Member since Jul 2020
8985 posts
Posted on 4/8/22 at 5:44 pm to
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Dinosaurs didn't exist. They are lie created to test your faith in God.


But...what of the "dinosaur bones" you mentioned upthread?
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
46611 posts
Posted on 4/8/22 at 5:47 pm to
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Whether my comments are satisfactory or not to you is another matter. I don't think I'm going to convince you of anything because you have a hardened heart and must be "born again" by the Holy Spirit to accept the truth.


+100

All you can do is what you've been doing, brutha. Those with an open, honest heart will hear you.


I’ve learned from Dr Frank Turek the quickest way to determine if a Christian is wasting their efforts when discussing the Gospel is to simply ask the unbeliever if Christianity were true would you become a Christian? That question makes it easy on both parties.
Posted by whatkindanameiskirby
Member since Aug 2016
2092 posts
Posted on 4/8/22 at 5:48 pm to
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But...what of the "dinosaur bones" you mentioned upthread?


They were planted by atheists to trick Christians.
Posted by whatkindanameiskirby
Member since Aug 2016
2092 posts
Posted on 4/8/22 at 5:52 pm to
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I’ve learned from Dr Frank Turek the quickest way to determine if a Christian is wasting their efforts when discussing the Gospel is to simply ask the unbeliever if Christianity were true would you become a Christian? That question makes it easy on both parties.


If there was evidence for it, I would. But there isn't.

It's actually the opposite. Despite the lack of evidence and historical inaccuracies in the Bible, you would never consider anything that would challenge your religion.
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
22782 posts
Posted on 4/8/22 at 6:00 pm to
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You already know what I think; What's your guess? And why?


I don’t think it has any bearing on my faith. I generally lean toward an older earth but really don’t have the expertise in science to “know”. This probably isn’t a very good answer.
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
46611 posts
Posted on 4/8/22 at 6:04 pm to
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I’ve learned from Dr Frank Turek the quickest way to determine if a Christian is wasting their efforts when discussing the Gospel is to simply ask the unbeliever if Christianity were true would you become a Christian? That question makes it easy on both parties.


If there was evidence for it, I would. But there isn't.

It's actually the opposite. Despite the lack of evidence and historical inaccuracies in the Bible, you would never consider anything that would challenge your religion.


I can link you several vids where people present evidence for the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ as being a real event in history.
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