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re: Is unlimited PTO actually a bad deal?
Posted on 4/4/22 at 10:07 am to Yaboylsu63
Posted on 4/4/22 at 10:07 am to Yaboylsu63
Guess it depends on your personality.
We don't have structured PTO - it is "unlimited". There are no forms or requests or anything formal when you take off. You just.. are off. If it's a trip you're going on or block time off for whatever reason, you put it on the shared calendar so others know you're gone. But appointments, taking the day off to just screw around, etc. are just at your leisure. There is a level of trust that your clients are happy and important work isn't pending, which all of us are smart enough to understand.
I don't take a lot of long trips each year, or need a lot of block time off, so the majority of my PTO comes in the form of the day to day. Working half the day, going out to lunch, and taking the afternoon off. Those sorts of things. As long as the clients aren't complaining and all deadlines are met, nobody really cares. We are pretty good about not taking complete advantage of it, while still getting plenty of PTO.
We don't have structured PTO - it is "unlimited". There are no forms or requests or anything formal when you take off. You just.. are off. If it's a trip you're going on or block time off for whatever reason, you put it on the shared calendar so others know you're gone. But appointments, taking the day off to just screw around, etc. are just at your leisure. There is a level of trust that your clients are happy and important work isn't pending, which all of us are smart enough to understand.
I don't take a lot of long trips each year, or need a lot of block time off, so the majority of my PTO comes in the form of the day to day. Working half the day, going out to lunch, and taking the afternoon off. Those sorts of things. As long as the clients aren't complaining and all deadlines are met, nobody really cares. We are pretty good about not taking complete advantage of it, while still getting plenty of PTO.
Posted on 4/4/22 at 10:11 am to LouisianaLady
LL I think most people in your scenario (which is similar to mine) probably appreciate the ability to take as many 3-4 day weekend trips as they realistically want, but we probably take fewer 7-10 day absences. Or at least it seems that way to me.
It's max flexibility, but takes more coordination/planning for traditional vacations, perhaps.
It's max flexibility, but takes more coordination/planning for traditional vacations, perhaps.
Posted on 4/4/22 at 11:28 am to LouisianaLady
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you put it on the shared calendar so others know you're gone.
I don't have unlimited PTO, I get 4.61 hours per pay period, but my company is sort of similar to yours. My boss has to approve time off, he's never told me no, and then just asks that we send out a Outlook meeting to everyone internal saying we are off so that people know not to expect a response from you and to plan accordingly.
We don't have to take off for doctors appointments or meetings. I go to phototherapy twice per week and asked my boss if I need to use hours, he said no you don't even need to tell anyone you are leaving for a doctors appointment. Very opposite of my last job who wanted to know where I was, when, and why I was off. Friday I worked about an hour, and took no time off. It was just a slow day. But since I'm not in an office can just do whatever I want.
We are very much a just get your work done company. It also helps that my bosses are similar aged to me and very active with outdoor activities, so they tend to not want to work Friday afternoons either.
I think more companies should take the get your work done mentality instead of tracking every second of your time in and out of the office.
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