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Socialists’ Response to War in Ukraine Has Put Some Democrats on Edge
Posted on 3/8/22 at 10:33 am
Posted on 3/8/22 at 10:33 am
Socialists’ Response to War in Ukraine Has Put Some Democrats on Edge
Not long after Russia invaded Ukraine, the Democratic Socialists of America released a statement that drew instant reproof.
The group condemned the invasion, but also urged the United States “to withdraw from NATO and to end the imperialist expansionism that set the stage for this conflict.”
The position — a watered-down version of a prior, even more pointed statement from the group’s international committee — drew rebukes from a White House spokesman and from a number of Democratic candidates and elected officials, from Long Island congressional contenders to officials in New Jersey and Pennsylvania. But in the New York City area, where the D.S.A.’s largest chapter wields substantial influence, it has also created a challenging dynamic for politicians aligned with the organization.
In the state’s 16th Congressional District, a refugee from Kosovo is making foreign policy central to his primary challenge of Representative Jamaal Bowman, a former middle school principal from Yonkers who rose to power with support from the Democratic Socialists of America.
In New York City, Democratic congressional candidates are debating America’s role in the world. And even before D.S.A.’s most recent statement, City Council members were clashing over the history of American and NATO intervention.
With a majority of Americans backing Ukraine as it struggles to repel a bloody, often live-streamed Russian invasion, the D.S.A.’s desire for a policy discussion about NATO appears to have sown unease in campaign circles: None of the nine New York City candidates the D.S.A. endorsed this year would consent to an interview on the topic, even as more centrist Democrats are now using the subject as a cudgel.
“We’re refugees from Kosovo, a country where me and my family had to flee because of ethnic cleansing and were saved, frankly, by U.S. and NATO intervention there,” Vedat Gashi, a Democrat challenging Mr. Bowman, said last week. “Blaming Ukraine and NATO for the escalation of this Russian invasion of Ukraine is to me, at the very best case, naïve and certainly wrong.”
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Not long after Russia invaded Ukraine, the Democratic Socialists of America released a statement that drew instant reproof.
The group condemned the invasion, but also urged the United States “to withdraw from NATO and to end the imperialist expansionism that set the stage for this conflict.”
The position — a watered-down version of a prior, even more pointed statement from the group’s international committee — drew rebukes from a White House spokesman and from a number of Democratic candidates and elected officials, from Long Island congressional contenders to officials in New Jersey and Pennsylvania. But in the New York City area, where the D.S.A.’s largest chapter wields substantial influence, it has also created a challenging dynamic for politicians aligned with the organization.
In the state’s 16th Congressional District, a refugee from Kosovo is making foreign policy central to his primary challenge of Representative Jamaal Bowman, a former middle school principal from Yonkers who rose to power with support from the Democratic Socialists of America.
In New York City, Democratic congressional candidates are debating America’s role in the world. And even before D.S.A.’s most recent statement, City Council members were clashing over the history of American and NATO intervention.
With a majority of Americans backing Ukraine as it struggles to repel a bloody, often live-streamed Russian invasion, the D.S.A.’s desire for a policy discussion about NATO appears to have sown unease in campaign circles: None of the nine New York City candidates the D.S.A. endorsed this year would consent to an interview on the topic, even as more centrist Democrats are now using the subject as a cudgel.
“We’re refugees from Kosovo, a country where me and my family had to flee because of ethnic cleansing and were saved, frankly, by U.S. and NATO intervention there,” Vedat Gashi, a Democrat challenging Mr. Bowman, said last week. “Blaming Ukraine and NATO for the escalation of this Russian invasion of Ukraine is to me, at the very best case, naïve and certainly wrong.”
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Posted on 3/8/22 at 10:39 am to djmed
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The group condemned the invasion, but also urged the United States “to withdraw from NATO and to end the imperialist expansionism that set the stage for this conflict.”
i hate socialists but the group is correct on this
Posted on 3/8/22 at 10:43 am to djmed
We had a presidential election a year ago and the debate committees refused to discuss foreign policy. What a shock that we are here today
Posted on 3/8/22 at 10:53 am to djmed
I will donating to the campaigns of those who are opppsing the Democratic Socialists. Heck, I'm going to call over and volunteer if I can.
Posted on 3/8/22 at 10:55 am to Eurocat
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will donating to the campaigns of those who are opppsing the Democratic Socialists. Heck, I'm going to call over and volunteer if I can.
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Eurocat
Those are your people. Don’t try to save face now, pinko.
Posted on 3/8/22 at 11:10 am to lsu777
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i hate socialists but the group is correct on this
I wondered how the Putinists on this board would react to this story.
Ironical.
Posted on 3/8/22 at 11:41 am to Eurocat
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I will donating to the campaigns of those who are opppsing the Democratic Socialists. Heck, I'm going to call over and volunteer if I can.
No you've become a cheerleader for your globalist masters. You cheer on using the U.S. Military to handle all conflicts against rogue nations who go against the globalist cabal. I can't think of anything more pathetic.
Posted on 3/8/22 at 11:54 am to TS1926
There is no "globalist cabal" you paranoid. There is only madman in a Kremlin.
Posted on 3/8/22 at 11:56 am to lsu777
I was just about to say, I guess a lot of you are socialists now.
Posted on 3/8/22 at 12:06 pm to djmed
Let's set back and watch these socialists fight each other.
Posted on 3/8/22 at 12:08 pm to Eurocat
So you are donating to DeSantis?
Posted on 3/8/22 at 12:10 pm to Lynxrufus2012
No, definitely not DeSantis, I am talking about the New York congressional candidates. I think I read that you have to live there to donate due to their constitution so that is out anyway but I don't have any reason to support him anyway.
Posted on 3/8/22 at 12:13 pm to chrome_daddy
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Putinists
When you and the pieces of trash on the OT Lounge resort to using this epithet, it's proof you have lost the narrative. Let me know when you and your family are headed to Ukraine ready to fight and die for their independence.
Posted on 3/8/22 at 12:16 pm to SCLibertarian
The same swath OTers defending this War ruthlessly are the same ones were very pro shutdown and masks for the spring of 2020. Those cucks have trouble seeing the bigger picture
Posted on 3/8/22 at 1:30 pm to Eurocat
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here is no "globalist cabal" you paranoid. There is only madman in a Kremlin.
LOL at you calling me paranoid. Your the same guy fretting when you found out the regime you voted into office was actually trying to spy on your 600 dollar checking account deposits; and yet they promised you they were going to What exactly that and you voted for them anyway.
BTW, here's an article from "The Hill" talking about Soros's organization pressing the U.S. State department regarding activities in Ukraine. I have a lot more if you want to get started becoming educated instead of a useful idiot moron.
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And here they are in Romania.
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Posted on 3/8/22 at 2:10 pm to chrome_daddy
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I wondered how the Putinists on this board would react to this story.
anything but that. But we do not need to be involved in every fricking war, neocon shite head.
have you served? if not stfu and ukraine is taking volunteers. dont ask others to die for a cause you are not willing to die for yourself.
is the conflict of such importance that you are willing to send you own kid to die? if not then dont ask others to do the same.
those are the 2 requirements a president should ask himself before sending our american troops to die along with....does this conflict threaten the freedom of the american tax payer. Because in the end the president doesnt own those military assets, the american tax payers do.
and any and all military action should require congressional approval and the war times act passed under Bush should not be renewed.
Posted on 3/8/22 at 2:12 pm to djmed
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often live-streamed Russian invasion
When has this happened?
Posted on 3/8/22 at 2:14 pm to djmed
I honestly never thought I'd agree with a socialist group about anything.
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