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Homily from mass yesterday was all about Ukraine

Posted on 3/7/22 at 12:35 pm
Posted by burger bearcat
Member since Oct 2020
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Posted on 3/7/22 at 12:35 pm
My priest decided it was time to finally discuss political events yesterday. Of course, I have never seen him so passionate about events and issues we actually as a church community could have some control over, especially this past year with the Covid lockdowns and medical mandates. Our parish acquiesced to the state saying we needed to do Mass via video stream.

I've never seen a homily about the abortion genocide in our own country or what's happening with Fentanyl that has been ravaging our community that has been coming across the border. While I certainly agreed with him on how war is a terrible thing and we should pray for the people over there, I can't help but continue to be disappointed in the lack of leadership from the Church (both Catholic and Protestant) the past few years.

We can't talk about Abortion, LGBT grooming, CRT, human trafficking, destruction of the nuclear family, opioid epidemic, and political corruption. But we can hear all about a geopolitical issue on the other side of the world.
Posted by 3rdgentgr
Member since Jan 2011
897 posts
Posted on 3/7/22 at 12:39 pm to
Did he insert climate change into the homily?
Posted by Rainy Day
Member since Mar 2022
20 posts
Posted on 3/7/22 at 12:41 pm to
Every church sign around me says "Pray for Ukraine"

I am shocked at the level of propaganda power they STILL have over people (especially after the 2020 election). But I probably shouldn't be.

Human beings simply weren't evolved for a world with mass and social media. It gives too much power to too few.
This post was edited on 3/7/22 at 12:42 pm
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
21773 posts
Posted on 3/7/22 at 12:45 pm to
I grew up Catholic. 12 years of Catholic school. Was a practicing Catholic for the first 40 years of my life, and I'd really like to be a practicing Catholic today - but I can't do it. I have so little respect for the human beings running the Church that I end up sitting in the pew getting pissed about the things you posted (and more). I still consider myself a Catholic, but I'm not sure the church considers me one.
This post was edited on 3/7/22 at 12:46 pm
Posted by jrobic4
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
11998 posts
Posted on 3/7/22 at 12:45 pm to
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Pray for Ukraine


Even though I acknowledge that our media is full of propagandists, I don't see why this is problematic. Either way, there is a loss of military and civilian life there
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
45738 posts
Posted on 3/7/22 at 12:45 pm to
Most church leaders aren't well versed in politics outside of some policy issues that overlap with moral concerns.
Posted by Tmcgin
BATON ROUGE
Member since Jun 2010
6360 posts
Posted on 3/7/22 at 12:47 pm to
your first time victimized by a priest?

Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
21773 posts
Posted on 3/7/22 at 12:48 pm to
quote:

Even though I acknowledge that our media is full of propagandists, I don't see why this is problematic. Either way, there is a loss of military and civilian life there

We should pray for the victims - but you're feeding the beast that created the bullshite when you print up the signs, wear the pins, hang the ribbons and all the other forms of virtue signaling..
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
62000 posts
Posted on 3/7/22 at 12:49 pm to
Your church might be part of the globalist problem.
Posted by ksayetiger
Centenary Gents
Member since Jul 2007
70159 posts
Posted on 3/7/22 at 12:55 pm to
quote:

I've never seen a homily about the abortion genocide in our own country


Really?
My church mentions abortion all the time
Posted by burger bearcat
Member since Oct 2020
10317 posts
Posted on 3/7/22 at 12:59 pm to
quote:

Really?
My church mentions abortion all the time


We put up the crosses and signs that say "end abortion". But it never gets explicitly called out from the pulpit the way it should. So many of our homilies the past 2 years have been watered down, feel good gobbledygook, that lack the necessary brimstone and fire that has been needed. Unless of course it is for something like Ukraine.
Posted by Rainy Day
Member since Mar 2022
20 posts
Posted on 3/7/22 at 1:01 pm to
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Even though I acknowledge that our media is full of propagandists, I don't see why this is problematic


Do you see them saying "Pray for Donbass" as Ukraine was shelling those civilians for weeks (and years).

"Pray for Palestine" anywhere? "Pray for Yemen"? "Pray for Syria" No? Exactly.

Hook. Line. And sinker.
Posted by Diego Ricardo
Alabama
Member since Dec 2020
11337 posts
Posted on 3/7/22 at 1:02 pm to
quote:

We can't talk about Abortion, LGBT grooming, CRT, human trafficking, destruction of the nuclear family, opioid epidemic, and political corruption. But we can hear all about a geopolitical issue on the other side of the world.



Abortion - Ultimately a fault of economic arrangements. In a world where all people must provide economic utility - especially since the single-earner family is basically a dead dream in the US at this juncture - women need the ability to control pregnancy to maximize their short-term and long-term utility.

LGBT grooming, CRT, and human trafficking - These are just rustic dumbass conservative windmill tilts.

Destruction of the nuclear family - Again, ultimately the fault of economic arrangements. The multi-generational family unit was destroyed by the industrial revolution and the nuclear family cohesion was upended by the necessity of making women full economic actors as alluded to above.

Opioid epidemic - Caused by pharmaceutical industry and exacerbated by a persistent decline in conditions in this country. White male suicide rate has been skyrocketing since roughly the 2008 economic collapse. Black male suicide rate in the US has always been pretty high. Deaths of despair as they say...

Political corruption - Has existed forever but tends to be a leading indicator of a sickly state that will probably wither away or transition into an autocratic arrangement. United States really fits that bill. Our zenith was in the 1960s before we stuck our dick in the mashed taters known as Vietnam. We have been declining economically since the end of the Bretton Woods System. Our constitution was never really strong on democratic principles by design - the Founding Fathers were scared of rule by the broader public since most of them were large landowners or financiers - so we are just persisting the norms and forms of a representative government but the levers and buttons the voters push aren't connected to anything anymore.


Posted by waiting4saturday
Covington, LA
Member since Sep 2005
10928 posts
Posted on 3/7/22 at 1:04 pm to
quote:

We can't talk about Abortion, LGBT grooming, CRT, human trafficking, destruction of the nuclear family, opioid epidemic, and political corruption. But we can hear all about a geopolitical issue on the other side of the world.


Theres some good priests out there who do actually talk about this stuff, you just gotta look hard.
Posted by MaroonNation
StarkVegas, Mississippi, Bitch!
Member since Nov 2010
22106 posts
Posted on 3/7/22 at 1:04 pm to
Homily is OK but I prefer grits.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
162356 posts
Posted on 3/7/22 at 1:07 pm to
find a more traditional Roman Catholic Church.
Posted by The007
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2022
474 posts
Posted on 3/7/22 at 1:10 pm to
Did he talk about Same Sex Marriage?
Did he talk about transgender people?

Posted by Jimbeaux
Member since Sep 2003
21338 posts
Posted on 3/7/22 at 1:14 pm to
We have entered a new phase of the Philosophy War. It’s probably better characterized as an ongoing philosophical struggle which has reached a new flash point.

The first principals of society are being challenged, and the average person has not previously needed to fully understand the waves of the water in which they swim, but now they are facing individual and group dynamics that are alarmingly contradictory.

The agreed upon solution to the problem of religious/philosophical conflict which raged up until recently, was a form of quiet relativism. However, once relativism really had a chance to take hold, it quickly began to metastasize into post-modernism and nihilism.

The marxists saw their opening and pushed into the vacuum of meaninglessness with “critical thinking”, aka identity politics, aka “there is no truth, only power”.

So, many religious leaders are still confronting yesterday’s battles of sectarianism by preaching love and acceptance (soft relativism), without knowing how to defend truth. Frankly, they haven’t been taught Truth, and don’t feel comfortable with it.
Posted by 3rdgentgr
Member since Jan 2011
897 posts
Posted on 3/7/22 at 1:14 pm to
Abortion is murder
Posted by OchoDedos
Republic of Texas
Member since Oct 2014
39299 posts
Posted on 3/7/22 at 1:15 pm to
Catholic Church expressing support for a heavily Orthodox Catholic country. What's so surprising?
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