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Negotiations. What is each side offering?
Posted on 3/5/22 at 10:09 am
Posted on 3/5/22 at 10:09 am
This will not end without:
1) Russia taking all of Ukraine ( bad for both ) will take years
2) A smaller Ukraine (bad for Ukraine, best for Russia)
3) all out war involving other nations (bad for world) end of times shite
4) Russia losing and leaving in defeat at hands of Ukraine alone (can’t see this happening, or would take years and years).
So when does Zelensky give up part of Ukraine and end this? That’s the most likely outcome here.
1) Russia taking all of Ukraine ( bad for both ) will take years
2) A smaller Ukraine (bad for Ukraine, best for Russia)
3) all out war involving other nations (bad for world) end of times shite
4) Russia losing and leaving in defeat at hands of Ukraine alone (can’t see this happening, or would take years and years).
So when does Zelensky give up part of Ukraine and end this? That’s the most likely outcome here.
Posted on 3/5/22 at 10:15 am to Dawgfanman
end result Ukraine is free from Khazarian mafia,the world is a better place,
Posted on 3/5/22 at 10:16 am to Dawgfanman
Won’t end until Putin has the puppet govt under his control.
Will claim “I saved Ukraine from tyrants” and withdraw troops. Then within year or two the puppet govt will vote to be part of Russian federation.
Will claim “I saved Ukraine from tyrants” and withdraw troops. Then within year or two the puppet govt will vote to be part of Russian federation.
Posted on 3/5/22 at 10:18 am to Dawgfanman
At this point, we really don't know.
Biden had ample time before the invasion to address Russia's border and security concerns, but he ignored them and took actions that were provocative against Russia.
Biden is the Foreign Policy Expert and the Leader of the Free World. Biden remains at the helm. I feel certain that all of Biden's military advisers have advised him to send no US military forces to fight Russia in Ukraine and I feel certain that Biden will follow this advice.
But, you are correct if you suspect that Putin's peace demands on Ukraine are becoming heavier with every passing day of war. IMHO, at this point, Putin would like to occupy Ukraine all the way up to Ukraine's Western border and militarize that border with Russian troops.
Biden had ample time before the invasion to address Russia's border and security concerns, but he ignored them and took actions that were provocative against Russia.
Biden is the Foreign Policy Expert and the Leader of the Free World. Biden remains at the helm. I feel certain that all of Biden's military advisers have advised him to send no US military forces to fight Russia in Ukraine and I feel certain that Biden will follow this advice.
But, you are correct if you suspect that Putin's peace demands on Ukraine are becoming heavier with every passing day of war. IMHO, at this point, Putin would like to occupy Ukraine all the way up to Ukraine's Western border and militarize that border with Russian troops.
Posted on 3/5/22 at 10:26 am to Champagne
if you have rats in your house do you negotiate to remove them?
Posted on 3/5/22 at 10:27 am to Bayoutigre
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if you have rats in your house do you negotiate to remove them?
No but if you have a bear in your house and only a knife to defend yourself, you might consider some strategy other than acting like it’s a rodent.
Posted on 3/5/22 at 10:28 am to Dawgfanman
(Up for re-interpretation)
Ukraine is offering:
* Complete Sock-Puppet access to the NWO
Russia is offering:
* Middle Finger to Klaus Schwab, NATO and the NWO
Ukraine is offering:
* Complete Sock-Puppet access to the NWO
Russia is offering:
* Middle Finger to Klaus Schwab, NATO and the NWO
Posted on 3/5/22 at 10:31 am to Dawgfanman
russia wants to demilitarize ukraine.
Prob wont stop until that happens. or Ukraine kills all the russians.
Prob wont stop until that happens. or Ukraine kills all the russians.
Posted on 3/5/22 at 10:32 am to dgnx6
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russia wants to demilitarize ukraine. Prob wont stop until that happens. or Ukraine kills all the russians.
Has there been any invasion or attacks of any real substance in western Ukraine?
Posted on 3/5/22 at 10:36 am to Dawgfanman
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So when does Zelensky give up part of Ukraine and end this? That’s the most likely outcome here.
The most likely outcome is that Putin is deposed by the Russian military and oligarchs. The West isn’t lifting these sanctions until Russia withdraws. Putin might achieve a tactical victory and physical control all or most of Ukraine, but politically, he has already lost. The Russians lack the will to fight, and the Ukrainian resistance has killed more Russians in one week than we lost in Iraq and Afghanistan combined in 20 years.
Posted on 3/5/22 at 10:40 am to Lsut81
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Won’t end until Putin has the puppet govt under his control.
What makes you think Ukraine isn't also a targeted Puppet State of NATO/NWO?
Either way, Ukraine is a globalist battlefield for Sock-Puppet dominance and "rights".
Posted on 3/5/22 at 10:42 am to baconwaffle
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The Russians lack the will to fight, and the Ukrainian resistance has killed more Russians in one week than we lost in Iraq and Afghanistan combined in 20 years.
And this is "true" because.....exactly WHOSE "MSM news accounts" can be trusted??
Posted on 3/5/22 at 10:44 am to Liberator
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And this is "true" because.....exactly WHOSE "MSM news accounts" can be trusted??
Who is talking about the MSM?
Posted on 3/5/22 at 10:45 am to Bayoutigre
quote:who do you think runs Russia? Who do you think the oligarchs are?
end result Ukraine is free from Khazarian mafia,the world is a better place,
Posted on 3/5/22 at 10:50 am to baconwaffle
quote:
Who is talking about the MSM?
You made the following claim (below). How do you know it's true? Is your source for it MSM?
quote:
"The Russians lack the will to fight, and the Ukrainian resistance has killed more Russians in one week than we lost in Iraq and Afghanistan combined in 20 years."
Posted on 3/5/22 at 10:50 am to Liberator
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You made the following claim (below). How do you know it's true? Is your source for it MSM?
Nope, it’s not.
Posted on 3/5/22 at 10:51 am to baconwaffle
Then it's opinion or presumption?
Posted on 3/5/22 at 10:57 am to Dawgfanman
The negotiations appear to be for humanitarian aid and civilian evacuations.
Russia will continue capturing the major cities. Once the eastern army makes its way to Kyiv they will begin cutting off supply lines and shelling the city. They’re still working to surround them.
Russia will continue capturing the major cities. Once the eastern army makes its way to Kyiv they will begin cutting off supply lines and shelling the city. They’re still working to surround them.
Posted on 3/5/22 at 11:11 am to Liberator
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Then it's opinion or presumption?
Not my opinion. I get facts from a variety of sources, and then draw logical conclusions. If you disagree with me, you should engage with me substantively, rather than doing this dance of “you cannot be right if you view the ‘wrong’ source of news.”
This post was edited on 3/5/22 at 11:13 am
Posted on 3/5/22 at 11:25 am to Liberator
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MSM
Exactly. History has proven themselves as manipulators & untrustworthy liars…even being exposed weekly now!
Consider your ‘news’ sources. It’s doubtful anyone on this board really knows the truth other than at a high level.
This post was edited on 3/5/22 at 11:36 am
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