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Negotiations. What is each side offering?

Posted on 3/5/22 at 10:09 am
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
24711 posts
Posted on 3/5/22 at 10:09 am
This will not end without:

1) Russia taking all of Ukraine ( bad for both ) will take years

2) A smaller Ukraine (bad for Ukraine, best for Russia)

3) all out war involving other nations (bad for world) end of times shite

4) Russia losing and leaving in defeat at hands of Ukraine alone (can’t see this happening, or would take years and years).

So when does Zelensky give up part of Ukraine and end this? That’s the most likely outcome here.
Posted by Bayoutigre
29.9N 92.1W
Member since Feb 2007
5868 posts
Posted on 3/5/22 at 10:15 am to
end result Ukraine is free from Khazarian mafia,the world is a better place,
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
82774 posts
Posted on 3/5/22 at 10:16 am to
Won’t end until Putin has the puppet govt under his control.

Will claim “I saved Ukraine from tyrants” and withdraw troops. Then within year or two the puppet govt will vote to be part of Russian federation.
Posted by Champagne
Sabine Free State.
Member since Oct 2007
51349 posts
Posted on 3/5/22 at 10:18 am to
At this point, we really don't know.

Biden had ample time before the invasion to address Russia's border and security concerns, but he ignored them and took actions that were provocative against Russia.

Biden is the Foreign Policy Expert and the Leader of the Free World. Biden remains at the helm. I feel certain that all of Biden's military advisers have advised him to send no US military forces to fight Russia in Ukraine and I feel certain that Biden will follow this advice.

But, you are correct if you suspect that Putin's peace demands on Ukraine are becoming heavier with every passing day of war. IMHO, at this point, Putin would like to occupy Ukraine all the way up to Ukraine's Western border and militarize that border with Russian troops.
Posted by Bayoutigre
29.9N 92.1W
Member since Feb 2007
5868 posts
Posted on 3/5/22 at 10:26 am to
if you have rats in your house do you negotiate to remove them?
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
24711 posts
Posted on 3/5/22 at 10:27 am to
quote:

if you have rats in your house do you negotiate to remove them?


No but if you have a bear in your house and only a knife to defend yourself, you might consider some strategy other than acting like it’s a rodent.
Posted by Liberator
Revelation 20:10-12
Member since Jul 2020
9071 posts
Posted on 3/5/22 at 10:28 am to
(Up for re-interpretation)

Ukraine is offering:

* Complete Sock-Puppet access to the NWO

Russia is offering:

* Middle Finger to Klaus Schwab, NATO and the NWO

Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
78809 posts
Posted on 3/5/22 at 10:31 am to
russia wants to demilitarize ukraine.


Prob wont stop until that happens. or Ukraine kills all the russians.
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
24711 posts
Posted on 3/5/22 at 10:32 am to
quote:

russia wants to demilitarize ukraine. Prob wont stop until that happens. or Ukraine kills all the russians.


Has there been any invasion or attacks of any real substance in western Ukraine?
Posted by baconwaffle
Houston
Member since Jan 2013
589 posts
Posted on 3/5/22 at 10:36 am to
quote:

So when does Zelensky give up part of Ukraine and end this? That’s the most likely outcome here.

The most likely outcome is that Putin is deposed by the Russian military and oligarchs. The West isn’t lifting these sanctions until Russia withdraws. Putin might achieve a tactical victory and physical control all or most of Ukraine, but politically, he has already lost. The Russians lack the will to fight, and the Ukrainian resistance has killed more Russians in one week than we lost in Iraq and Afghanistan combined in 20 years.
Posted by Liberator
Revelation 20:10-12
Member since Jul 2020
9071 posts
Posted on 3/5/22 at 10:40 am to
quote:

Won’t end until Putin has the puppet govt under his control.


What makes you think Ukraine isn't also a targeted Puppet State of NATO/NWO?

Either way, Ukraine is a globalist battlefield for Sock-Puppet dominance and "rights".
Posted by Liberator
Revelation 20:10-12
Member since Jul 2020
9071 posts
Posted on 3/5/22 at 10:42 am to
quote:

The Russians lack the will to fight, and the Ukrainian resistance has killed more Russians in one week than we lost in Iraq and Afghanistan combined in 20 years.


And this is "true" because.....exactly WHOSE "MSM news accounts" can be trusted??
Posted by baconwaffle
Houston
Member since Jan 2013
589 posts
Posted on 3/5/22 at 10:44 am to
quote:

And this is "true" because.....exactly WHOSE "MSM news accounts" can be trusted??

Who is talking about the MSM?
Posted by Gaggle
Member since Oct 2021
7276 posts
Posted on 3/5/22 at 10:45 am to
quote:

end result Ukraine is free from Khazarian mafia,the world is a better place,
who do you think runs Russia? Who do you think the oligarchs are?
Posted by Liberator
Revelation 20:10-12
Member since Jul 2020
9071 posts
Posted on 3/5/22 at 10:50 am to
quote:

Who is talking about the MSM?



You made the following claim (below). How do you know it's true? Is your source for it MSM?

quote:

"The Russians lack the will to fight, and the Ukrainian resistance has killed more Russians in one week than we lost in Iraq and Afghanistan combined in 20 years."
Posted by baconwaffle
Houston
Member since Jan 2013
589 posts
Posted on 3/5/22 at 10:50 am to
quote:

You made the following claim (below). How do you know it's true? Is your source for it MSM?

Nope, it’s not.
Posted by Liberator
Revelation 20:10-12
Member since Jul 2020
9071 posts
Posted on 3/5/22 at 10:51 am to
Then it's opinion or presumption?
Posted by Stidham8
Member since Aug 2018
8658 posts
Posted on 3/5/22 at 10:57 am to
The negotiations appear to be for humanitarian aid and civilian evacuations.

Russia will continue capturing the major cities. Once the eastern army makes its way to Kyiv they will begin cutting off supply lines and shelling the city. They’re still working to surround them.
Posted by baconwaffle
Houston
Member since Jan 2013
589 posts
Posted on 3/5/22 at 11:11 am to
quote:

Then it's opinion or presumption?

Not my opinion. I get facts from a variety of sources, and then draw logical conclusions. If you disagree with me, you should engage with me substantively, rather than doing this dance of “you cannot be right if you view the ‘wrong’ source of news.”
This post was edited on 3/5/22 at 11:13 am
Posted by 2Yutes
BR
Member since Oct 2018
2231 posts
Posted on 3/5/22 at 11:25 am to
quote:

MSM


Exactly. History has proven themselves as manipulators & untrustworthy liars…even being exposed weekly now!

Consider your ‘news’ sources. It’s doubtful anyone on this board really knows the truth other than at a high level.
This post was edited on 3/5/22 at 11:36 am
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