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re: Don't like the player hate: Reid
Posted on 2/24/22 at 11:47 am to GEAUXLPOST
Posted on 2/24/22 at 11:47 am to GEAUXLPOST
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Agreed, but that's exactly the case here. It's not "like" he doesn't have much experience playing basketball, he doesn't!
He started playing in 10th grade, so 3+ years of experience.
He makes decisions that go against second nature of people in that position.
Like being under the rim with the ball and kicking it out to a guard.
Posted on 2/24/22 at 11:55 am to GEAUXLPOST
With good coaching, I believe he can become a major force. Unfortunately, that coaching will have to come from somewhere else than current LSU coaches.
Posted on 2/24/22 at 11:59 am to tigersbb
quote:well that's just absurd. Of course we can criticize players - although we should do it fairly and reasonably.
You have no right to criticize any player.
No one "hates" Efton Reid. He's playing hard and doing his best and nearly all LSU fans understand and appreciate that. But at this level of ball, it's about production.
Reid voluntarily signed to play at a D-I school, and that comes with expectations and pressure.
If a player wants little pressure and criticism, he could always go play for a D-II or D-III school.
Posted on 2/24/22 at 12:36 pm to GEAUXLPOST
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Splitting time with him and O'Neal, could be a solution, but Wade is obviously seeing something to the contrary. I like O'Neal, but he has many of the same deficiencies as Reid. Main difference is his aggression, which this team needs badly.
This is one of my biggest gripes with Wade. We don’t have a single big that plays down low that is worth a shite.
I am actually impressed that we have a top 20 defense honestly with zero presence down low.
I don’t consider Days or Eason true bigs because they want to play out on the wing.
Man having a guy like KBG this year would have been huge. I’m hoping one of the 2 5 star bigs he’s bringing in next year can make a difference.
Posted on 2/24/22 at 12:38 pm to GEAUXLPOST
I can't wait for the mental gymnastics next year when he averages 10 and 8. The gap between high school and sec basketball is big, especially for a guy who was normally the biggest guy on the court his entire life. Walker Kessler (who went for a triple double against us earlier in the year) had to transfer because he could not sniff the court at UNC. Believe it or not, guys tend to improve with more experience, especially an 18 year old like reid
Posted on 2/24/22 at 12:46 pm to CoachRay
quote:I truly hope Reid has those numbers next year. I don't see it, but honestly hope he does.
I can't wait for the mental gymnastics next year when he averages 10 and 8.
quote:I watched Kessler in high school here in Atlanta. He was highly-skilled, but was misused at UNC. I don't think Kessler's improved production at Auburn is due to development - it's just Pearl is using his skills properly.
Walker Kessler (who went for a triple double against us earlier in the year) had to transfer because he could not sniff the court at UNC
Posted on 2/24/22 at 1:07 pm to GEAUXLPOST
Very good and accurate analysis. I liked a couple of plays last night where they hit him on the roll back to the goal. Gaines did a good job a couple times of finding him in that situation that lead to him finishing with no hesitation, attacking the rim and getting a dunk.
I’d like to see them change up his motion on his free throws and take away the big leg action and make it more subtle. I think it would create more consistency and repeatability if they took some of that out.
I’d like to see them change up his motion on his free throws and take away the big leg action and make it more subtle. I think it would create more consistency and repeatability if they took some of that out.
Posted on 2/24/22 at 1:26 pm to GEAUXLPOST
He is only a true freshman that has been playing basketball for a relatively short period. He was a 5 star because of his size and because he can move relatively well for that size. Time in a college level strength and conditioning program plus experience could be huge for this kid. Ton of upside if he develops. The question is if he will develop.
Posted on 2/24/22 at 1:34 pm to Palm Beach Tiger
The fact is, we are being outplayed at the "five" position in every SEC game. That is a hell of a load the rest of the team has to carry or make up.
I don't understand it. If the other two freshmen centers are more inept, why are they on the team.
Is it a lack of player evaluation.
I don't understand it. If the other two freshmen centers are more inept, why are they on the team.
Is it a lack of player evaluation.
Posted on 2/24/22 at 1:58 pm to GEAUXLPOST
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I'm glad I'm not Wade and have to make those decisions. Fudge may be equally as raw as Reid. I love O'Neal's aggression, and hopefully Reid can get to that level.
Out of the three, we don't have a best option to be completely honest. We recruited potential, and that's okay, but it need to be developed. I agree there should be more of a rotation, but that 5 spot is the glaring weakness.
There are 3 games left in the season. So I think the days of just automatically inserting Reid into the line up only to give you two quick fouls and little to no contribution to the game should probably be over. The days of "we're 15-1, or whatever, with this starting line up" ended long ago. Now, you are 19-9 staring at the POTENTIAL of playing your way out of the NCAAT. Best case scenario is you are preparing to get your team ready for the NCAAT.
Does Wade think that after 20 straight games (once they reach the NCAAT) Reid is suddenly going to blow up in the NCAAT and all of the lack of production will be worth it? Seems doubtful. So why not try to see if you can get something out of tweaks to the line up. Give O'Neal more minutes. Go a little more athletic with Fudge in the game. Or is Wade just resigned to make the NCAAT as a 8/9, maybe win a game, then move on to next season?
I'm not saying O'Neal is the second coming of Shaq. But you are not losing much by at least giving him more opportunity
Posted on 2/24/22 at 2:00 pm to GEAUXLPOST
With some dedication and hard work this summer, I could easily see Reid being the most improved player on the team next season. There is no doubt the talent is there.
I certainly agree with those areas of improvement listed in the OP.
However, for this current season, I have wondered many games why Reid gets so many minutes.
I certainly agree with those areas of improvement listed in the OP.
However, for this current season, I have wondered many games why Reid gets so many minutes.
This post was edited on 2/24/22 at 2:02 pm
Posted on 2/24/22 at 2:20 pm to Alt26
quote:exactly.
Does Wade think that after 20 straight games (once they reach the NCAAT) Reid is suddenly going to blow up in the NCAAT and all of the lack of production will be worth it? Seems doubtful. So why not try to see if you can get something out of tweaks to the line up.
Do we not have ANY other lineup (without Reid) that might be more productive? Shouldn't Wade try to mix it up with different lineup combinations to see what might click?
I agree with you, Alt, that the switch isn't going to flip for Reid this year - he is what he is. And it's not good, so let's try something else.
I mean, don't the coaches see this in practice every day?
Posted on 2/24/22 at 2:28 pm to GEAUXLPOST
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Reid has a ton of potential to get better
He has a ton of room to get better cause he isn’t good at anything. So improving a little would be a huge upgrade.
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potential to be a star.
No he doesn’t. How does someone who isn’t good at anything have potential to be a star? If it wasn’t for that 5 star rating, and you just watched the player without thinking about his supposed potential, we would all be wondering why this guy was even playing, and if he even deserved to be on the roster of any decent team.
As much as I don’t like Gaines, at least that is a guy where you can see potential if he figures shite out, which I don’t think he will. That is not the case with Reid.
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or he may be a superstar.
Posted on 2/24/22 at 2:32 pm to landrywasbeast30
quote:this is correct. I've said this before and got downvoted to hell.
If it wasn’t for that 5 star rating, and you just watched the player without thinking about his supposed potential, we would all be wondering why this guy was even playing, and if he even deserved to be on the roster of any decent team.
If Reid was a no-name 3* and played the way he's playing, no one would EVER say he has the potential to be a star.
People on this board are blinded by the 5* recruiting rating, which is horrifically wrong.
Posted on 2/24/22 at 2:53 pm to Alt26
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Neither was Walker Kessler last season at UNC
I’ve seen this mentioned a couple times, and people saying this have no fricking clue what they are talking about. Kessler was being used wrong by a coach that was out of touch and shouldn’t have been coaching anymore, in a crowded big rotation.
Even still, he had moments. He had a nice stretch to end the season, and had a 16/12 and 8 blocks game in 20 minutes in March against Notre Dame. He was their 4th big. His per 40 was 20/15/4. Dude just wasn’t getting minutes. When he played he produced.
Reid has been starting all year, had a few decent games, mostly against lower level teams. At this point you just hope he becomes useful and playable in the future. This potential to be a star stuff is ridiculous.
Posted on 2/24/22 at 3:08 pm to Jrv2damac
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Like being under the rim with the ball and kicking it out to a guard.
Or getting the ball near the rim in great position and instead of going up strong, he takes a fadeaway hook shot.
Posted on 2/24/22 at 3:23 pm to CoachRay
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Walker Kessler (who went for a triple double against us earlier in the year) had to transfer because he could not sniff the court at UNC
Just cause y’all wanna keep throwing out the Kessler comparison doesn’t make it true. Most people thought Kessler would be a star this year even if he had stayed at UNC. You could see the talent, even playing under a coaching not using him correctly and him barely getting minutes. He left to be closer to home with the pandemic and all.
Posted on 2/24/22 at 3:30 pm to landrywasbeast30
quote:interesting side note: Kessler's sister played beach volleyball at LSU from 2016-18.
Just cause y’all wanna keep throwing out the Kessler comparison doesn’t make it true. Most people thought Kessler would be a star this year even if he had stayed at UNC. You could see the talent, even playing under a coaching not using him correctly and him barely getting minutes. He left to be closer to home with the pandemic and all.
Posted on 2/24/22 at 4:38 pm to GEAUXLPOST
Agree, so give him some minutes and get him ready for next year. He is not ready to be starting at this time.
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