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re: It’s happening, Get in here right now! Wisconsin is the first domino!

Posted on 1/25/22 at 11:29 pm to
Posted by TheRoarRestoredInBR
Member since Dec 2004
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Posted on 1/25/22 at 11:29 pm to
Poor Latina30, LSU 81, Holden Cough44,etc..

Y'all still can't put 2 and 2 together. Why EO 13848,etc..went on the books a year before the election, what's in those PEADs, why a second Gitmo Courthouse with a media room is being completed, why Trump Pence Barr pics are still up in Fed office lobbies 13 months later,etc..
This post was edited on 1/26/22 at 7:44 am
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 1/26/22 at 6:11 am to
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Ya'll still can't put 2 and 2 together. Why EO 13848,etc..went on the books a year before the election, what's in those PEADs, why a second Gitmo Courthouse with a media room is being completed, why Trump Pence Barr pics are still up in Fed office lobbies 13 months later,etc..



Q better do something before Joe has us in a hot war with Russia
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
147355 posts
Posted on 1/26/22 at 9:44 am to
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Poor Latina30, LSU 81, Holden Cough44,etc..

Y'all still can't put 2 and 2 together. Why EO 13848,etc..went on the books a year before the election, what's in those PEADs, why a second Gitmo Courthouse with a media room is being completed, why Trump Pence Barr pics are still up in Fed office lobbies 13 months later,etc..
EO 13848 is over. The intel agencies were so spread with CCP apologists that anything derogatory about the CCP or any foreign election meddling that wasn't to diss Trump-- was omitted from the report. (SEE Ratcliffe stories) The election was certified for Biden. They got away with packing the votes for Biden. It is done, like it or not. There is no plan to get justice for a corrupt system and the key players.

Please cite where anything in the E.O.s are going to reinstall Trump or expose the swamp.

Look beyond the title of this and many other articles on GTMO NAS court rooms. Pentagon Building New Secret Courtroom at Guantánamo Bay

Certain things are always classified/secret in GTMO. But if you would actually read about the subject. The second court room is because of attorney complaints of past trials. The second court room is to accommodate the constant complaints from terrorists lawyers. It seems there is plenty of egg on the U.S. govts faces regarding the secret torture done in 2003-2004.

The lawyers of the terrorists are essentially being appeased with a court room with more room for reporters and less CIA cutting off the feed. Yes, Obama spent millions on a court room. Yes our govt/Pentagon is wasteful enough to build a 4mil courtroom just to appease the political correctness from the terrorists lawyers.

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The second court was designed before President Biden took office with an administration-wide goal of ending detention operations at the base at Guantánamo Bay. It is being built in the United States for assembly at Guantánamo and is expected to be up and running in the middle of 2023, Mr. Flesvig said.

Meantime, workers can be seen at the court compound preparing a space adjacent to the existing courtroom for the new one. But Defense Department officials have yet to decide where to put the virtual gallery, or calculate its cost, he said.

The new court has room for just three defendants, too small for the Sept. 11 case, unless the judge severs some the five defendants from the joint capital punishment trial.

The plan does, however, allow for a scenario of two death-penalty cases being tried at the same time. In the Sept. 11 case, reporters and victims would watch live. But family members and shipmates of the 17 sailors killed in the Qaeda suicide attack of the destroyer Cole off Yemen in 2000, who routinely attend sessions, would be kept away from the court with other observers, watching video feeds.

It appears to be tailor made for the conspiracy murder trial of three men who were recently charged in two terrorist bombings in Indonesia in 2002 and 2003 that killed more than 200 people. Lawyer James R. Hodes, who represents the lead defendant, Encep Nurjaman, who is known as Hambali, said that even at the current court, access has been far from open.

Public viewing at Mr. Hambali’s arraignment in August was strictly controlled by the military, which decides which reporters, law students or human rights advocates can board a Pentagon charter plane to travel to the base. The military also controls access to two remote video sites inside the Pentagon or at Fort Meade in Maryland.

“I’ve observed trials in Mongolia that were more transparent than this,” Mr. Hodes said.

To be sure, some secrets have been declassified, particularly in the death-penalty cases, which have been mired in pretrial hearings for about a decade.

A medical expert recently testified in open court about the post-traumatic stress of a prisoner who was waterboarded by the C.I.A. in 2002. Previously, the doctor’s descriptions of the trauma would have been consigned to a classified session that excluded both the public and the prisoner.

Separately, the intelligence services permitted open court discussion of something that defense lawyers had known for years: Under a secret agreement, the C.I.A. requisitioned nine F.B.I. agents and temporarily made them agency operatives to interrogate prisoners in a network of black sites where the C.I.A. used torture in its interrogations. The agreement is still classified, but the intelligence agencies last month permitted its existence to be known.

But the new courtroom reflects a trend toward what appears at times to be a peculiar pick-and-choose transparency.

For example, for 17 years the military routinely took visiting journalists to the detention facilities where most captives are kept, but required them to delete photographs that showed cameras, gates and other security procedures. Then, the military undertook a consolidation that moved Mr. Mohammed and other detainees who were held by the C.I.A. from a secret site to the maximum-security portion of those once showcase facilities — and declared the entire detention zone off limits to journalists.

Their empty, formerly C.I.A.-controlled prison is off limits to reporters too. Defense lawyers who are seeking a preservation order on the site, describe it as a rapidly deteriorating facility that was clearly unfit for the prisoners and their guards. One military lawyer who visited there recently described carcasses of dead tarantulas in the empty cellblocks.

In 2019, a Marine judge, prosecutors and defense lawyers discussing a new triple-wide, wheelchair accessible holding cell at the court used the expression “jumbo cell” — derived from a Miami Herald article — 30 times in a single court hearing.

Security officers subsequently sent word that the nickname for the cell, essentially a description of a security measure, could no longer be spoken in open court. The prohibition continues, although the military showed reporters the new jumbo cell before a hearing on the 20th anniversary of the Sept. 11 attacks.

“This is an ad hoc classification system,” said James P. Anderson, the security specialist assigned to the defense team of Abd al-Hadi al-Iraqi, who has spent nights in the cell at the court complex. “Things that used to be unclassified become classified just because the person reviewing it is uncomfortable with its use. It defies all reasonable logic.”

On the evening of Oct. 28, an anonymous government official sent word to the judge that a paragraph should be censored from a statement a prisoner was about to read to a military jury about his torture by the C.I.A.

The judge considered the request and refused, noting that the statement was not classified.

In it, the prisoner Majid Khan quoted Jose Rodriguez, the former C.I.A. counterterrorism director, as saying in a newspaper article that “mistakes were made” in the operation of a particularly grisly C.I.A. prison known as the Salt Pit. Mr. Khan was tortured there in 2003.
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