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re: Tennis is the most difficult sport to master

Posted on 1/21/22 at 11:52 am to
Posted by noonan
Nassau Bay, TX
Member since Aug 2005
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Posted on 1/21/22 at 11:52 am to
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You can go to country clubs around the country and find 35-45 year old men that can shoot scratch and can play in a pro tournament and not completely embarassing themselves. They would shoot in the mid to high 70s and not look that out of place


Yeah, I'm going to have to disagree here.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 1/21/22 at 11:58 am to
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but you currently have 3 guys with like 20 major wins. Seems like they’ve mastered it.

and how many combined majors does the rest of the tennis world have combined among active players? I'd say if only 3 guys have managed to master a sport that is played worldwide, then that sport is pretty damn hard to master
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 1/21/22 at 12:03 pm to
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But the scratch amateurs can still shoot in the 70s and not look like an out of place baboon

scratch amateurs are very, very unlikely to shoot in the 70s in PGA tour event conditions. The difference between an every day scratch golfer and a PGA touring professional is miles wide. It would be very very improbable they don't finish a PGA tour event DFL
This post was edited on 1/21/22 at 1:02 pm
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 1/21/22 at 12:08 pm to
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I think you can give most kids enough tennis reps and get them to about D1 level of competition

no
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 1/21/22 at 12:11 pm to
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I watched Steph curry shoot 73 at a korn ferry event

he shot a 71 and followed it up with an 86. He finished dead last and 10 shots behind 2nd to last. I'd call that getting worked
Posted by Veritas
Raleigh, NC
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 1/21/22 at 12:18 pm to
Golf
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
99550 posts
Posted on 1/21/22 at 12:47 pm to
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he shot a 71 and followed it up with an 86. He finished dead last and 10 shots behind 2nd to last. I'd call that getting worked


What other sport can a complete amateur that has a full time job that takes up a shite ton of his time come out and shoot the equivalent of a 71 even one day? Only golf

Any other sport you would look like an absolute jackass

What other sport can a woman go out there and look respectable with pros? Only golf

Golf is a ridiculous answer for this thread.
This post was edited on 1/21/22 at 12:49 pm
Posted by TigerFan91
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Posted on 1/21/22 at 12:53 pm to
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I'd say if only 3 guys have managed to master a sport that is played worldwide, then that sport is pretty damn hard to master


I agree with you, my point was more so that no one has ever really “mastered” hitting a baseball and we have three guys that you could argue have all mastered tennis at it’s highest level all around the same time.

I guess mastered is subjective. Since baseball is such a sport of failure it depends on how you quantify having mastered it.
This post was edited on 1/21/22 at 1:00 pm
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
65976 posts
Posted on 1/21/22 at 12:55 pm to
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What other sport can a complete amateur that has a full time job that takes up a shite ton of his time come out and shoot the equivalent of a 71 even one day? Only golf


Michael Jordan played AA baseball after doing nothing but playing basketball since he was 16.

I didn't even say golf was harder to master. That was just a poor take. Curry finished 10 shots worse than anyone else in a tour event that is below the top level of golf. I wouldn't say that is a good example of how a good amateur player can avoid getting worked by professionals.

The bottom line is there is no professional sport where an amateur wouldn't get dominated by pros. I don't think any sport is a "ridiculous" answer

And let's not get it twisted. Curry plays plenty of golf. He's not a +1.5 handicap casually playing in the off-season. He's also an elite professional athlete. Guys with his natural athletic ability have a good shot being successful at a variety of different sports if they choose to commit a reasonable amount of time to them. The list of guys who have played multiple sports at the college and even professional level isn't exactly small.
This post was edited on 1/21/22 at 1:04 pm
Posted by jglass3lsu
Member since Jan 2007
883 posts
Posted on 1/21/22 at 12:59 pm to
When did shooting 74 at a easy-pinned and trimmed pro-am event become considered "mastery" of golf? Get out of here until you know what you're talking about.
Posted by SG_Geaux
Beautiful St George, LA
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 1/21/22 at 1:02 pm to
Hell no.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
99550 posts
Posted on 1/21/22 at 1:02 pm to
Annika shot 71-74 at colonial during a men’s pro event

HARDEST SPORT EVER
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
99550 posts
Posted on 1/21/22 at 1:05 pm to
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lsufball19

Noticed you skipped over Annika….
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
65976 posts
Posted on 1/21/22 at 1:08 pm to
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Noticed you skipped over Annika….


Annika wouldn't be able to stay on the Korn Ferry Tour if she tried. She was the #1 female golfer in the world when she played in a mens PGA event. Unless you're prepared to say Serena Williams in her prime couldn't win a single game against any male professional tennis player, then this argument you're trying to make is stupid.

And again, I never said golf was the hardest sport to master. Pointing out poor takes is not mutually exclusive with arguing golf is the most difficult. I did the same for a poor take someone had about tennis
This post was edited on 1/21/22 at 1:10 pm
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
99550 posts
Posted on 1/21/22 at 1:08 pm to
Let’s go further

First round scoring average at 2003 colonial was 68.5. A woman shot 2.5 strokes worse

A WOMAN
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
99550 posts
Posted on 1/21/22 at 1:10 pm to
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Annika wouldn't be able to stay on the Korn Ferry Tour if she tried. She was the #1 female golfer in the world when she played in a mens PGA event. Unless you're prepared to say Serena Williams in her prime couldn't win a single game against any male professional tennis player, then this argument you're trying to make is stupid.



She shot 2.5 strokes worse in round one than the pros average

She beat multiple pros in round 1. That’s called being actual competitive against t the men. Serena would be embarrassed and not remotely competitive.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
65976 posts
Posted on 1/21/22 at 1:13 pm to
for whatever reason, you seem to continue to think I've argued golf is the hardest sport to master. Do you want that to be my argument that badly?
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
99550 posts
Posted on 1/21/22 at 1:16 pm to
I’m speaking towards people whose answer is golf, which seem to be the majority. I’m just using your posts to response to
Posted by lsutigers504
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2012
358 posts
Posted on 1/21/22 at 1:30 pm to
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I’ve heard Rafael Nadal is a pretty good golfer, would be interesting to see him play against professional golfers.

I've read before that Nadal is, in fact, a scratch golfer. You definitely wouldn't be able to tell from his swing.
Posted by lechateau
Member since Dec 2021
967 posts
Posted on 1/21/22 at 1:36 pm to
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Unless you're prepared to say Serena Williams in her prime couldn't win a single game against any male professional tennis player, then this argument you're trying to make is stupid.


She wouldnt win a set against the top 5k men
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