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Family lost appeal for use of Ivermectin

Posted on 1/17/22 at 7:51 am
Posted by Herooftheday
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Posted on 1/17/22 at 7:51 am
Epoch Times

Basically the family istrying to get the Mayo hospital to allow the use of Ivermectin or let their doctor administer Ivermectin to a loved one.

The hospital won't allow any of it because its not part of their protocol and they don't allow outside doctors in the hospital.

The 70 year old man has been on a vent for 28 days and the hospital has given the a 5% chance of surviving. Since it is looking bad the family wanted to try other things to possibly save his life.

I think protocols have killed more than the virus itself simply by denying alternative care.

This is John Q level stuff. It seems the hospital is looking at recieving incentives and protecting their protocols that lead to the vent. Definately not protecting the man that is literally at death's door.

PS The family lost the initial court case and then an appeals case.
This post was edited on 1/17/22 at 8:24 am
Posted by j1897
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 1/17/22 at 7:52 am to
Why not give him Acyclovir?
Posted by Bearcat90
The Land
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Posted on 1/17/22 at 7:52 am to
And this is going down in Florida?
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 1/17/22 at 7:55 am to


Didn't Trump sign the 'right to try' law?
Posted by Smeg
Member since Aug 2018
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Posted on 1/17/22 at 7:57 am to
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It seems the hospital is looking at recieving a payout for this mans death plus the 28 days on the vent and is protecting that.

This is key. There is so much going on behind the scenes that is motivated by $ it's not even funny.


"Why doesn't the media conduct 'real' journalism?"
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Posted by markinkaty
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Posted on 1/17/22 at 7:58 am to
I'm a DeSantophile; so, what's the deal? Also, 3 months ago, I kept sending Abbott and Patrick emails telling them they would be rock stars if they acquired ivermectin for Texans and they never responded.
Posted by Oates Mustache
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 1/17/22 at 7:58 am to
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This is John Q level stuff


I'm surprised something like this hasn't happened yet.
Posted by FlexDawg
Member since Jan 2018
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Posted on 1/17/22 at 7:59 am to
I’d be going to tractor supply and giving it to him myself
Posted by Wednesday
Member since Aug 2017
16927 posts
Posted on 1/17/22 at 8:00 am to
Here’s what I don’t understand about the Ivermectin hesitation in the medical community.

Is there a reason doctors haven’t tried it upon diagnosis? I realize its efficacy for treating Covid has not been demonstrated in a clinical trial - but it’s also not been demonstrated to harm people. It would seem there is at least SOME evidence among docs who have prescribed it as part of a protocol that it helps. First do no harm.

I am not a doctor. However if I were 65+ and got the Rona, I don’t understand why the first order of business isn’t giving a Rx for Ivermectin or HCQ and a freaking Zpack? Does anyone know? What is the “official” explanation.

There is nothing in this protocol that could hurt so far as I understand. And it certainly makes more sense than “call me if you get worse.”
Posted by the808bass
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Posted on 1/17/22 at 8:00 am to
What is the treatment protocol for Covid for the Mayo Clinic of Florida?
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
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Posted on 1/17/22 at 8:03 am to
quote:

It seems the hospital is looking at recieving a payout for this mans death plus the 28 days on the vent and is protecting that.


Hospitals don’t get paid more for a death.
Posted by Herooftheday
Member since Feb 2021
3830 posts
Posted on 1/17/22 at 8:03 am to
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What is the treatment protocol for Covid for the Mayo Clinic of Florida?


Apparently antibiotics, steroids if the patient can take them. If their O2 drops put them on vent, sedate, see how it goes.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
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Posted on 1/17/22 at 8:04 am to
Thanks. I would like more than “apparently.” Why hasn’t Mayo shared their protocols?
Posted by dafif
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 1/17/22 at 8:04 am to
The lawyer has won cases in Florida

I wonder if the issue is that mayo does not let other drs treat

I’d move the guy out to Shands asap
Posted by Smeg
Member since Aug 2018
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Posted on 1/17/22 at 8:05 am to
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Here’s what I don’t understand about the Ivermectin hesitation in the medical community

I would bet it's as simple as "top down". The guy at the top gets greased (by big pharma) and the "official protocol" states "this hospital does this, not that". Then, any doctors working there either follow official protocol or get let go for not following protocol.

This post was edited on 1/17/22 at 8:07 am
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
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Posted on 1/17/22 at 8:07 am to
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The guy at the top gets greased and the "official protocol" states "this hospital does this, not that".


This is getting warmer.

Add in that hospitals have been given immunity from lawsuits in treating Covid 19 as long as they follow CDC recommendations.
Posted by Herooftheday
Member since Feb 2021
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Posted on 1/17/22 at 8:08 am to
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This is getting warmer.


Go find it and report back
Posted by beebefootballfan
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 1/17/22 at 8:08 am to
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Hospitals don’t get paid more for a death.


Nah. Only for Medicaid/Medicare vent patients. Why would they want him off the vent?
Posted by loogaroo
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Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 1/17/22 at 8:11 am to
It’s sick! Pure evil what they are doing.

What’s more surprising is no dirtbag attorneys are blowing the lid off this stuff. Where are they when we actually need them?
Posted by Herooftheday
Member since Feb 2021
3830 posts
Posted on 1/17/22 at 8:12 am to
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Hospitals don’t get paid more for a death.


It has to state the probably cause of death on the certificate to be covid 19 to recieve the higher allocation under the CARES act. So yea, the patient needs to die for the claim.

PS diagnosis can also trigger payout with or without vent.
This post was edited on 1/17/22 at 8:26 am
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