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re: NPR comes to the realization that Civil War is indeed a possibility

Posted on 1/16/22 at 12:37 pm to
Posted by LSUAngelHere1
Watson
Member since Jan 2018
8223 posts
Posted on 1/16/22 at 12:37 pm to
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The media exist within the framework of our free market, capitalist system.

Technically this is not true. Most every mainstream media outlet would be defunct and bankrupt if not for our enemies subsidizing the propaganda.

They wouldn’t exist anymore if not for the CCP and Soros.
This post was edited on 1/16/22 at 12:39 pm
Posted by AussieRock
Member since Jan 2022
329 posts
Posted on 1/16/22 at 12:39 pm to
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The words you quote are not in the Constitution, and are not law. The words I quoted ARE law. You may call the law "balderdash", but then that makes you, quite literally, a scofflaw - at best.

Wear those jockboots!!!
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While this may be true, those "irreconcilable differences" must be plainly articulated, and debated as to their irreconcilability.
Well what the frick do you think amicable separation would do?

Sheesh. You spend ALL this time trolling your arse of then finally post this? Good fricking lord

Amicable, by definition, would include BOTH SIDES in the discussion. Otherwise, it ain't amicable.
Posted by Bwmdx
Member since Dec 2018
2773 posts
Posted on 1/16/22 at 12:41 pm to
Their idea of compromise is akin to them approaching me and saying they want to cut off my arm. When I decline they decide to compromise and only cut off my hand. I gain nothing from the compromise and only lose.

We are to the point where further compromise secedes too much power to a government and establishment that has already made it perfectly clear they want you gone. It’s not time compromise when it means your destruction, it’s time to stand.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 1/16/22 at 12:42 pm to
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Whoever incites, sets on foot, assists, or engages in any rebellion or insurrection against the authority of the United States or the laws thereof, or gives aid or comfort thereto...

Sounds like your radical left friends.

While I have no friends who have engaged in such behavior, there were many indications on the Election Board, that some who post here have engaged in such.

But keep on making your assumptions about what you think I believe and support. You cannot cite ANY words posted here by me that would support any such behavior as above, nor even can you cite anything posted by me that would indicate I support government ownership of the means of production, nor any seditious positions as defined in my previous post.

I have never voted for any president who has approved the expansion of the nation's debt. Can you say the same? Do you even see the debt increase through annual deficit spending as a problem?
Posted by UncleFestersLegs
Member since Nov 2010
10978 posts
Posted on 1/16/22 at 12:44 pm to
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Under our current economic system, it is said, "Build a better mousetrap, and the world will beat a path to your door". If you don't like the mousetrap that is our current media, build a better one and quicherbitchin
do you believe the media has any responsibility to present both sides?
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 1/16/22 at 12:48 pm to
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Technically this is not true. Most every mainstream media outlet would be defunct and bankrupt if not for our enemies subsidizing the propaganda.

They wouldn’t exist anymore if not for the CCP and Soros.

The only difference between the truth & a conspiracy theory is a few months.

You're quite obviously irrational, if not delusional. Don't blame George Soros if no one wants to read your drivel. And note, I said "build a better mousetrap", not just "another shitty mousetrap".
Posted by LSUAngelHere1
Watson
Member since Jan 2018
8223 posts
Posted on 1/16/22 at 12:48 pm to
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Their idea of compromise is akin to them approaching me and saying they want to cut off my arm. When I decline they decide to compromise and only cut off my hand. I gain nothing from the compromise and only lose. We are to the point where further compromise secedes too much power to a government and establishment that has already made it perfectly clear they want you gone. It’s not time compromise when it means your destruction, it’s time to stand.

Exactly. People don’t realize that their version of compromise is allowing us to live... but with their boot on our necks.

Fk that!
This post was edited on 1/16/22 at 12:49 pm
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 1/16/22 at 12:53 pm to
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you support those who hate it so much that they want to fundamentally change it.

Name these people you accuse me of supporting, please.

Because I accuse you of supporting those who hate our country so much that they are hellbent on bankrupting us. And I bet I can even name them as they would include anyone who has voted for deficit spending and subsequent expansion of our debt load. None of whom have ever received my vote.
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
19763 posts
Posted on 1/16/22 at 12:57 pm to
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"Semi-automatic weapons comprise around 19.8 million in total," they add ominously, "making for a highly armed population with potentially dangerous capabilities."


Second Amendment

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 1/16/22 at 1:03 pm to
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do you believe the media has any responsibility to present both sides?

In the capitalist free marketplace, a corporation has one responsibility - to increase shareholder value through any legal means. What we as consumers depend on is that there exists competition in the marketplace such that consumer demand is met. So, in that sense, no single media corporation has a responsibility to provide goods or services that it doesn't believe are in the fiduciary interests of their shareholders.

But since you believe that one market sector has such responsibilities to consumers, what other market sectors do you believe have responsibilities to consumers beyond the individual corporations' fiduciary ones?
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
Team Bitter Clinger
Member since May 2020
18005 posts
Posted on 1/16/22 at 1:06 pm to
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The words you quote are not in the Constitution, and are not law. The words I quoted ARE law. You may call the law "balderdash", but then that makes you, quite literally, a scofflaw - at best.


“Life, liberty, and property do not exist because men have made laws. On the contrary, it was the fact that life, liberty, and property existed beforehand that caused men to create laws in the first place.” Frederic Bastiat: The Law.

And the Constitution itself was only ratified because our nation was founded upon the precept that our God-endowed Natural Rights precede man-made laws. Again, the Constitution would never have been ratified by the sovereign and independent states if the states believed that ratification meant the intended Union was to exist into perpetuity.

Any claim otherwise is to display an utter ignorance of the debates that surrounded the ratification of the Constitution. It may have taken over 200 years, but can any true supporter of the principles of limited government seriously disagree with the prophetic warnings of the Anti-Federalists?



“When the American spirit was in its youth, the language of America was different: liberty, sir, was then the primary object. But now, sir, the American spirit, assisted by the ropes and chains of consolidation, is about to convert this country into a powerful and mighty empire. Such a government is incompatible with the genius of Republicanism. There will be no checks, no real balances, in this government. What can avail your specious, imaginary balances, your rope-dancing, chain-rattling, ridiculous ideal checks and contrivances?” Patrick Henry, Virginia’s delegate to the First and Second Continental Congress.



This post was edited on 1/16/22 at 1:07 pm
Posted by UncleFestersLegs
Member since Nov 2010
10978 posts
Posted on 1/16/22 at 1:13 pm to
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But since you believe that one market sector has such responsibilities to consumers
I believe that for democracy to function, there needs to be a free flow of ideas absent any agenda so the people can make informed decisions. I don't believe this should be enforced by law but by the integrity of those who enjoy that freedom recognized by the first amendment.
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what other market sectors do you believe have responsibilities to consumers beyond the individual corporations' fiduciary ones?

Just off the top of my head, I sincerely hope my personal doctor cares more about my health than the fiduciary health of his practice. I think he owes me at least that but perhaps I'm just naive.
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
Team Bitter Clinger
Member since May 2020
18005 posts
Posted on 1/16/22 at 1:14 pm to
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It appears that only those on the right are expected to compromise.


“Compromise” to progs means accommodating yourself to the acrid taste of boot-leather pressed firmly upon your mouth.





Posted by AussieRock
Member since Jan 2022
329 posts
Posted on 1/16/22 at 1:17 pm to
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And the Constitution itself was only ratified because our nation was founded upon the precept that our God-endowed Natural Rights precede man-made laws. Again, the Constitution would never have been ratified by the sovereign and independent states if the states believed that ratification meant the intended Union was to exist into perpetuity.

Any claim otherwise is to display an utter ignorance of the debates that surrounded the ratification of the Constitution. It may have taken over 200 years, but can any true supporter of the principles of limited government seriously disagree with the prophetic warnings of the Anti-Federalists?

Moreover, people need to remember that we were sort of drug kicking and screaming to the current constitution. The people involved in writing it or voting on it were largely the same people who wanted the Articles of Confederation.

These people quite obviously were very cautious about the idea of a strong federal government and sought to make it barely as strong as necessary.

Alas, from the start, leftist had other ideas.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 1/16/22 at 1:20 pm to
Curiously, here is the preamble to the:



To all to whom these Presents shall come, we, the undersigned Delegates of the States affixed to our Names send greeting. Whereas the Delegates of the United States of America in Congress assembled did on the fifteenth day of November in the year of our Lord One Thousand Seven Hundred and Seventy seven, and in the Second Year of the Independence of America agree to certain articles of Confederation and perpetual Union between the States of Newhampshire, Massachusetts-bay, Rhodeisland and Providence Plantations, Connecticut, New York, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Delaware, Maryland, Virginia, North Carolina, South Carolina, and Georgia in the Words following, viz. “Articles of Confederation and perpetual Union between the States of Newhampshire, Massachusetts-bay, Rhodeisland and Providence Plantations, Connecticut, New York, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Delaware, Maryland, Virginia, North Carolina, South Carolina, and Georgia.

Only to be superseded by:

"We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America."

Perpetuity was a foregone conclusion for the "more perfect Union". Not only is the Union in perpetuity, but even that the federal government would have more power than the confederated one.
Posted by Spasweezy
Unfortunately, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2014
6623 posts
Posted on 1/16/22 at 1:21 pm to
My dad died a few years ago and although I miss him every day, I’m glad that he doesn’t have to witness all the bullshite we see today.
Posted by dstone12
Texan
Member since Jan 2007
30497 posts
Posted on 1/16/22 at 1:21 pm to
Not asmany as you think.

You and your neighbor 3 miles away and his neighbor 2 miles away only makes three men over five miles.
Posted by AussieRock
Member since Jan 2022
329 posts
Posted on 1/16/22 at 1:23 pm to
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a more perfect Union,

You bolded it so, go ahead. Tell us why they used that phrase.

This should be good.
Posted by LSUAngelHere1
Watson
Member since Jan 2018
8223 posts
Posted on 1/16/22 at 1:25 pm to
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You're quite obviously irrational, if not delusional. Don't blame George Soros if no one wants to read your drivel. And note, I said "build a better mousetrap", not just "another shitty mousetrap".

You’re delusional bc you can’t comprehend that they’d be bankrupt if not for our enemies subsidizing the propaganda.

Which further proves that you do not genuinely care about the greater good of our country. Hell you can’t even connect the dots that they wouldn’t need our enemies to subsidize them if people wanted to read/hear their drivel.

The media was hijacked and is a monopoly controlled by our adversaries. But please carry on proving just how foolish you really are.
Posted by AussieRock
Member since Jan 2022
329 posts
Posted on 1/16/22 at 1:26 pm to
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perpetual Union

UNDER THE CONSTITUTION

With the constitution abandoned, you non longer have a union. And, we long since abandoned it. Hell, the people you vote for openly hate the thing, are running around the nation removing statues of the people involved in giving it to us while calling everyone involved a bunch of white supremacists.

Your party is nearly completely populated by people whose hatred for the document is perhaps only superseded by their hatred of the people who wrote and signed it.
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