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Posted on 3/7/22 at 8:30 am to
Posted by bluemoons
the marsh
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Posted on 3/7/22 at 8:30 am to
Don't want to speak too soon, but one of those Brad's Atomic Grape seedlings hung on and actually looks pretty good.

I'm going to do all of this work getting one of these plants to grow and the tomatoes are probably going to taste like crap .
Posted by SulphursFinest
Lafayette
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 3/7/22 at 8:59 am to
Been wanting a dragon fruit cactus for the yard so I guess that’ll be my random buy for the year.
Posted by Kreweofwayne
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 3/7/22 at 9:01 am to
Pillage, what varieties of tomatoes are you planting? your raised beds are very nice!
Posted by PillageUrVillage
Mordor
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Posted on 3/7/22 at 9:41 am to
I’m growing Beefmasters, Cherokee purple, and Roma.

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your raised beds are very nice!


Thank you.

I’m going to be planting cantaloupe, watermelon, and sunflowers in those for now. I plan on using them for onions, garlic, and carrots in the fall. Maybe some pumpkins in the summer if I have one available.
This post was edited on 3/7/22 at 9:42 am
Posted by Comic_Tiger
Member since Jul 2020
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Posted on 3/7/22 at 10:32 am to
anyone know where I can get some sweet potato slips/plants in the BR area?
Posted by TheBoo
South to Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 3/7/22 at 11:22 am to
I usually order mine from Steele Plant Company. Satisfied with them.
Posted by BallsEleven
Member since Mar 2019
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Posted on 3/7/22 at 11:59 am to
I finally got around to transplanting my blueberry bush. It was in a smaller pot so I wanted to move it up a size. The pot was covered in ants though so I’ll be battling those for a bit.

I had a 2nd blueberry bush but it died after a drought and me not paying attention. I thought I had grabbed a tifblue at the store the other day to replace it but it ended up being a grape vine I grabbed by mistake. I planted it anyways just to see what will happen since my other blueberry doesn’t need an additional pollinator.

I got some strawberries planted as well and moved the one strawberry I already had up to the next sized pot. Lots of buds and flowers on it so they boys will be excited for that.

Since my compost pile won’t be ready to mix into the garden until summer or fall the next project will be getting just a couple bags of compost or soil conditioner to mix into the dirt to help break up that crappy arse fill dirt I put in last year. Lesson learned to get “top soil” from someone reputable. Haha
Posted by TheBoo
South to Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 3/8/22 at 8:07 am to
Looks like another frost for the north shore this weekend, lows of 38 ish on the south shore for us cajun folk. Hopefully this will be the last one.
Posted by MLU
Member since Feb 2017
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Posted on 3/8/22 at 8:47 am to
I laid 100ft of 3/4" sched 40 PVC with a line split off to each bed attached to a loop of soaker hose in each bed. I added a hose bib about 3/4s of the way down to add a garden hose for no specific reason. I buried the last third across the yard, into the beds. I plan on installing a timer to hose bib that connects to the WiFi to help keep track of how much and when on the watering. I had to figure out a way to stick a silicon chip into gardening somewhere. Lol

I'm most proud of getting everything watertight on the first attempt. Lol
Posted by PillageUrVillage
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Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 3/8/22 at 9:08 am to
Yep, gonna be bringing the transplants inside and covering everything else this weekend.
Posted by gumbo2176
Member since May 2018
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Posted on 3/8/22 at 2:09 pm to
I bought seeds to direct sow and some stuff already started from the garden center.

The things I got already started were a dozen tomato plants with 8 being Better Boy and 4 being Roma.

I also got a dozen eggplant, 8 being the Ichiban and 4 being the regular purple globe.

I did get 8 bell pepper, 4 habanero and 4 jalapeno with more super hots to put in when I can get them.

Tomorrow I'll get my cucumber, squash, pole beans and soy bean seeds in the ground. Then in a couple weeks I'll put in my okra seeds.
Posted by PillageUrVillage
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Posted on 3/8/22 at 2:31 pm to
I have a question for those with experience growing melons. I've only ever tried growing watermelon one time. And while I got a few decent melons out of it, I just remember it taking up a lot of valuable real estate that I didn't really have much of. So I never grew them again.

Enter present day where I specifically built big raised beds in order to grow stuff like this. I noticed on the planting instructions for the cantaloupe and watermelon seeds it says to sow 6-8 seeds per hill and thin down to 3 plants when they get a certain size. I've looked up the hill planting method and get a couple of different descriptions. One says that you should mound up the dirt and literally make a hill, another says not to do that because melons need lots of water and this could cause it to dry out too fast. Basically, sow seeds in a circle about a foot in diameter and thin to 3 plants "per hill". Is this what most of you do? Or do y'all do something different?

My boxes are 4' X 10', so that's 40 sq ft. I've read for most varieties you should give them about 60 sq ft to spread out. If they spill outside the boxes and run on the ground below, that's fine by me. I kind of expected that. I'm used to trellising vining plants, so this territory is not as familiar to me.
This post was edited on 3/8/22 at 2:37 pm
Posted by gumbo2176
Member since May 2018
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Posted on 3/8/22 at 2:41 pm to
Yes, they do take up a lot of room. Since you are planting the seeds in a raised bed, there is no need to hill up the area since it is already above ground level.

But know that raised beds are kind of like potted plants when it gets sunny and hot-----they dry out much quicker and will need more watering. The plants WILL spill out of that area and can make mowing more difficult around the raised beds.

For fewer, but larger melons, pinch off some of the early melons so more energy goes to making fewer melons per plant, but larger ones. You may also want to put something under the fruit as it grows to keep them from potential rot due to direct ground contact---straw, cardboard, etc. work well.


One year I grew cantaloupes on a large trellis and had to use netting and some of my wife's old panty hose to go around them and tie them to the trellis so they wouldn't break off and die. The netting and pantyhose allowed them to get large and kept them on the vine. More of a PITA than it was worth in the end is how I found it.
This post was edited on 3/8/22 at 2:41 pm
Posted by PillageUrVillage
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Posted on 3/8/22 at 2:46 pm to
quote:

But know that raised beds are kind of like potted plants when it gets sunny and hot-----they dry out much quicker and will need more watering.


Good to note. I will be running drip irrigation to them soon and also plan to mulch.

quote:

The plants WILL spill out of that area and can make mowing more difficult around the raised beds.


That shouldn’t be too big of an issue. I will have to watch my step though.


quote:

For fewer, but larger melons, pinch off some of the early melons so more energy goes to making fewer melons per plant, but larger ones. You may also want to put something under the fruit as it grows to keep them from potential rot due to direct ground contact---straw, cardboard, etc. work well.

Also good info. Thanks. Appreciate the insight.
Posted by gumbo2176
Member since May 2018
15383 posts
Posted on 3/8/22 at 3:11 pm to
Have you ever grown summer squash before, as in zucchini and yellow crook neck varieties, and if so, how well did they do?

The reason I ask is I'm one of the unfortunate that always has to deal with the dreaded Squash Vine Borer that will eventually kill off my summer squash plants.

It matters not what I do to try to keep them at bay, they get in the plants and destroy them. Just so you know, if you have problems with SVB's in squash, you will also have them in melons since their stems are quite similar being mostly hollow.
Posted by PillageUrVillage
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Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 3/8/22 at 3:23 pm to
quote:

Have you ever grown summer squash before, as in zucchini and yellow crook neck varieties, and if so, how well did they do?


I have not. I’m not really a big fan of squash.

I did read about the potential vine borer problems. I’ll try to be vigilant and cross my fingers that I don’t have a problem with them. I don’t know how common it is, but I read that they sometimes lay their eggs on cucumber plants as well. I can tell you I’ve grown cucumbers for a long time and have never seen this.
Posted by gumbo2176
Member since May 2018
15383 posts
Posted on 3/8/22 at 3:30 pm to
quote:

I can tell you I’ve grown cucumbers for a long time and have never seen this.


I too grow cucumbers every year, a trellis for slicing cucumbers and one for pickling cucumbers and have never had an issue with borers in those vines.

I think it is probably due to the brunt of the plant being off the ground and climbing on the trellis as opposed to squash that spread out across the ground in all directions with much of the stems in direct ground contact.
Posted by bluemoons
the marsh
Member since Oct 2012
5532 posts
Posted on 3/8/22 at 3:33 pm to
I have successfully kept the vine borers at bay the last couple of years, but it's taken effort and comfort with using Sevin Dust. I put the dust in a turkey baster and I keep the vines of the plant consistently dusted. This typically requires me to dust about once per week depending on rain. This has gotten me through the entirety of the last two growing seasons with no borer casualties.
Posted by gumbo2176
Member since May 2018
15383 posts
Posted on 3/8/22 at 3:40 pm to
quote:

but it's taken effort and comfort with using Sevin Dust.



I'm by no means an 'organic' gardener, but I'm also not too crazy about using an excess amount of insecticides either. Besides, summer squash, when in season at the stores is cheap enough to just buy.

I grew corn one year----and only one year. I had about 50 plants that averaged just one ear per plant and it took up a fair amount of garden space to grow it. That year the local Rouses put corn on sale at 10 ears for $1 and at that price, it wasn't worth growing.
Posted by PillageUrVillage
Mordor
Member since Mar 2011
14843 posts
Posted on 3/8/22 at 3:42 pm to
Have y'all ever tried one of these traps? Squash vine borer traps
Video

Seems like it could help.
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