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Posted on 12/22/21 at 4:23 pm
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 12/22/21 at 4:23 pm
Been sick and laid up which leads to YouTube wormholes. Watching some Medal of Honor videos where recipients are interviewed.

One was a Vietnam war artillery guy. Long but incredible story of what he did. Amazing he can still stand. But one of his big actions during the battle was setting off a Beehive Round with his damaged cannon and over charging it to the point the cannon partially landed on him.

The Beehive Round sounds like the most godawful thing conceived. Any old timers on here ever fire one even in training and are they still used today?
Posted by beachdude
FL
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 12/22/21 at 4:30 pm to
It could be fired from a 105 mm recoilless rifle or presumably an armored assault vehicle gun tube or a tank. They were used when I was in Vietnam and I saw what the bazillions of little nail like flachettes (sp) looked like. (Inch long nails with tiny fins.) I think the original purpose was for use against massed troops in the open, but not sure. All I know is we had them, used them, and fortunately I never had to look at the end result.
This post was edited on 12/22/21 at 4:31 pm
Posted by BPTiger
Atlanta
Member since Oct 2011
5337 posts
Posted on 12/22/21 at 4:34 pm to
Posted by choppadocta
Louisiana
Member since May 2014
1882 posts
Posted on 12/22/21 at 4:35 pm to
Beehive rounds went out of favor after the VietNam war. I believe the M1 Abrams tank has an antipersonnel round

Canister round

and flechette rockets are used by the Apache and Cobra as a 70mm rocket round against troops in the open.

This post was edited on 12/22/21 at 4:39 pm
Posted by Wolfhound45
Hanging with Chicken in Lurkistan
Member since Nov 2009
120000 posts
Posted on 12/22/21 at 4:37 pm to
Paging RollTide1987.

The earliest form of this round (that I am aware of) is the canister (or grapeshot) round from the American Civil War period.



Posted by lsewwww
Member since Feb 2009
376 posts
Posted on 12/22/21 at 5:07 pm to
I had not read that one before or heaard of him and I try to read lots of these. heres the link in words from the chicago tribune
linky

damn impressive
Edit: Sgt davis is still with us and miraculously Sgt Gant survived his injuries and only recently died in 2019 at an old age of 88
This post was edited on 12/22/21 at 5:26 pm
Posted by Afish85
Member since Apr 2021
562 posts
Posted on 12/22/21 at 6:45 pm to
That was Sammy L Davis, a bad bad man, they used his MoH ceremony for Forrest Gump. His story is very much worth reading/listening to.
This post was edited on 12/22/21 at 6:46 pm
Posted by NWarty
Somewhere in the PNW
Member since Sep 2013
2181 posts
Posted on 12/22/21 at 6:50 pm to
It’s called “Killer Junior”. You can set the M577 fuse to super quick so it activates at 30m after coming out of the barrel.

I never fired one, nor knew anyone in peacetime who did. Just too dangerous. So anytime we went to do direct fire, it was a standard 739 fuze/point detonating at a fixed target in the impact area.

Edited to add: this is with the Standard M107 HE round
This post was edited on 12/22/21 at 6:53 pm
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
65013 posts
Posted on 12/22/21 at 6:52 pm to
When I first enlisted we had the original M1 Abrams with the 105mm main gun. There was a “Beehive” round for it. But I never fired one nor saw one fired. We fired Sabot and HEAT rounds. Same thing when we got the M1A1s.
Posted by PSUMMERS
Ms
Member since Sep 2014
388 posts
Posted on 12/22/21 at 7:56 pm to
The modern day version of that is a canister round fired from an M1 SEP (Tank) think 120 mm shotgun shell
Posted by Spaceman Spiff
Savannah
Member since Sep 2012
17608 posts
Posted on 12/22/21 at 10:04 pm to
Damn. Beehive rounds were legit. My uncle was a FO in Vietnam and talked about using those when their fire base was overrun.

Unbelievable story - Roy Benavidez.
Benavidez
MrBallens account of Roy’s citation
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